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> -- Mike
>
It was bought and paid for by David Sarnof, because he was counting on
the money from AM radio sales to finance RCA's television production.
FM inroads to AM sales were a threat, and Howard Armstrong was rude
enough not to agree.
Sarnof cheated him out of the royalties for the FM audio used in TV's,
and persuaded other TV manufacturers to do the same, and also got the
frequency assignments changed in order to make all existing FM receivers
obsolete.
--
Bill Horne
bhorne@lynx.neu.edu
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:09:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: ssampson@othello.UCSD.EDU (Steve Sampson)
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
> The U.S. does not need this little piece to service
> the deficit, which is already 60% down in the few years since Clinton took
> office.
That's like me saying I'm only spending 40% more than my salary, please pat
me on the back. This in addition to a 5 Trillion loan I haven't paid either.
The amount we spend on interest would fund Medicare.
> This only happened because someone wanted the frequency, and wanted
> frequencies overall to be less expensive to acquire.
More correctly, they wanted a band where they could have several MHz to do
the job right.
I remember Hams saying they would never use the band because of all the
Microwave ovens. They don't analyze the fact that those microwave ovens
make great transmitters. If they just put an antenna on an old one, the
band would be of zero interest to the industry.
Rather than suing the U.S. again (which the ARRL did on the 220 morse code
fight), we should do something positive. The era of long haul links is
over. Hams are the only ones puting up 40 and 50 mile high-power links.
If you can telco for free at 28.8 kbaud , then it makes sense to use telco
to connect two distant sites, and use RF in a cell. Inside that cell,
should be a large group of low-power spread-spectrum users.
> P.S. some people wrote back that my .sig was indeed inappropriate for
packet.
Stop! Stop! You're splitting my sides! Ha Ha. First you say we need 2 Gig
for Hams, and then a group of Hams say your .sig is not appropriate for
Ham radio. This is too funny. It shows perfectly, why we should extract
the bands from these idiots. With the Part-97 rules in one hand, and a
religious belief in the ARRL, they are doomed to become Dinosaur oil.
Steve
"My signature is too complex for Part-97"
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:42:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: ssampson@othello.UCSD.EDU (Steve Sampson)
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
> Even if you do think more people would use the bands if they were
> reallocated, you should consider that this is only the first step,
> and that it's only a few more until your 2 Meter and 440 MHz bands
> go the same way. It's time to act.
Let's get serious here. If the band was given away already, the best
you can hope for is a trade (compensation). Rather than sending a
whine letter to your Congressman, tell them they provided a needed
solution to telecommunication needs, by utilizing a minimally populated
band. Tell them it was populated by some Hams, and request that
they compensate you with more HF spectrum. Since HF is where all the
Hams are, there's no need for any other trade. Send them a $100 bill.
The best thing to happen to 2m and 70cm would be to make AM (SSB) and
FM illegal. That would get people off their autopatch ass, and 1200
baud couch. Make the whole bands spread spectrum. Let's do it
tommorrow!
Steve
"No Free Rides"
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:54:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Horne <bhorne@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
Bruce,
I'm sorry, I was too subtle. I'll make my points more clear:
1. Most hams can't make use of 2300 MHz, and won't be interested in
what others can do if they don't see themselves on the band. Until average
hams perceive the band as valuable, they won't be motivated to help you.
2. Anyone who comes to the frequency table in the current political
environment had better bring cash. Hams don't have any.
3. Politicians don't give a damn about ham radio, your concerns, or
anything else that doesn't help them get elected. Waste all the stamps
you want: most congressmen just weigh their mail, anyway.
Call me back when you have an argument that has a chance in Washington:
in the meantime, I'll use my "Backbone" to ask hard questions about
EXACTLY what it is you hope to accomplish, and EXACTLY how you expect to
do it. If you "don't have time" to deal with practical problems like
insurance, terain and how to motivate volunteers, you've lost before you
start.
Bruce Perens <Bruce@pixar.com> said:
> Bill Horne <bhorne@lynx.dac.neu.edu> said:
> > Of course, my diatribe begs the question: what now?
> > I don't know.
>
> I don't have time to deal with the fact that you are a "type 4",
> or what the line of sight is in Boston, or whether you have insurance
> problems.
>
> Look, if I wrote out a letter and posted it here, would you stick your name
> on the end and send it to your congressman for me?
>
> Let's get a little backbone, folks.
>
> Bruce
Bill "hoping for W4BH" Horne, AA1ES
p.s. I'll condense the customary citation of my Vietnam service: suffice to
say I learned the hard way that backbones are not made of steel - those
which can't bend are much more likely to break. That's reality: how
are YOU dealing with it?
--
Bill Horne
bhorne@lynx.neu.edu
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 96 16:49:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
Bruce Perens wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
BP> Even if you do think more people would use the bands if they
BP> were reallocated, you should consider that this is only the
BP> first step, and that it's only a few more until your 2 Meter
BP> and 440 MHz bands go the same way. It's time to act.
To be continued in digest: tcp_96_222C
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