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TCP-Group Digest Fri, 27 Sep 96 Volume 96 : Issue 203
Today's Topics:
TCP-Group Digest V96 #202
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:42:56 CST
From: jeffrey_austin@juno.com (Jeffrey S Austin)
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V96 #202
Does anyone, beside myself, run a HAPN-2 interal TNC? If so, please drop
my a note I'ld like to talk to you.
-73's de Jeff n8vna@amsat.org
"A man is only as intelligent as the words he speaks."
On Thu, 26 Sep 96 04:30:02 PDT Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group
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>TCP-Group Digest Thu, 26 Sep 96 Volume 96 : Issue
>202
>
>Today's Topics:
> higher speeds, coding etc.. (4 msgs)
>
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>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:25:16 +0000
>From: "Anthony Godshall" <togo@of.net>
>Subject: higher speeds, coding etc..
>
>dayj@ozemail.com.au (John Day) 17 Sep 96
>
>> >and 13cm would seem far more promising. Keep away from GMSK with
>all its
>> >attendant complications and go for a simple scheme which needs only
>simple
>> >radio equipment.
>
>Phil Karn's 17 Sep 96 . . .
>
>> There's a limit to how simple the scheme can be and still work. In
>> particular, spread spectrum is fairly complex, but it also works a
>lot
>> better. So some complexity is beneficial, especially if it can be
>> relegated to software or to VLSI hardware as opposed to RF hardware.
>
>Albert Einstein said ...
>
>"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler"
>
>
>Best regards.
>Tony
>
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>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 08:21:23 -0500
>From: "Steven R. Sampson" <ssampson@othello.tinker.af.mil>
>Subject: higher speeds, coding etc..
>
>Anthony Godshall wrote:
>>
>> Albert Einstein said ...
>>
>> "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler"
>
>That works in economics as well. If you charge everything and never
>pay it back it's called "The economy is better under my
>Administration."
>Even better is: "I'll give you 15% of your money back."
>
>What money? You spent it in 1968...
>
>By channelizing the spectrum and handing out permits (a finite
>quantity), you keep it very simple. Einstein would be proud of the
>achievements in FM and SSB radio in channelizing the spectrum.
>When you channelize you simplify the equipment.
>
>Is there another way to simplify? Yes. How simple is: just use the
>whole band. There is nothing simpler than that. Einstein would be
>proud. Is the equipment simple? Who cares. We don't know if
>Einstein would favor simple equipment over simple theory. If he saw
>how many organizations it took to hand out channel permits, I'm sure
>he'd favor spread spectrum. By channel permits I'm mostly thinking
>of the FCC and Frequency Coordinators, etc.
>
>Steve
>"4 Trillion is a simple number"
>
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>
>Date: Wed, 25 Sep 96 22:09:26 GMT
>From: johnday@oznet02.ozemail.com.au (John Day)
>Subject: higher speeds, coding etc..
>
>> > I have proven designs for PSK radios for 23 and 13cm - all I need
>is
>> something
>> Hi John!
>>
>> You really should check at
>http://www.hamradio.si/hamradio/packet.html
>>
>> We allready have 13/23 cm PSK RTX for high speed packeting...
>>
>> Bajko, S57BBA.
>>
>Bajko,
>
>I had a look at your WEB site some weeks ago and managed to get the
>13cm PSK
>transceiver article. Excellent work, Matjaz and the others involved
>are to be
>congratulated for producing something which actually works and is in
>use!
>
>Biggest problem I had was the speed, as I am sure you know the site
>can be very
>slow when accessed from afar!
>
>Congratulations, John vk3zjf
>
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>
>Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:42:13 +1000
>From: Terry Dawson <terry@perf.no.itg.telstra.com.au>
>Subject: higher speeds, coding etc..
>
>Steven R. Sampson wrote:
>
>> Is there another way to simplify? Yes. How simple is: just use the
>> whole band. There is nothing simpler than that. Einstein would be
>> proud. Is the equipment simple? Who cares. We don't know if
>> Einstein would favor simple equipment over simple theory. If he saw
>> how many organizations it took to hand out channel permits, I'm sure
>> he'd favor spread spectrum. By channel permits I'm mostly thinking
>> of the FCC and Frequency Coordinators, etc.
>
>"Bands" are just coarse channels. How do you handle the case where
>someone doesn't want to pay their fee to use the whole band because
>they don't want the whole band? Do you create a very narrow band for
>them to use the whole of ?
>
>Personally I prefer the Australian Spectrum Management Agency's
>approach. Bands are an administrative convenience to help avoid
>interference, how much you pay is determined by how much you use,
>and use is defined by bandwidth*geographical area/number you share
>with, or something like that.
>
>I think Einstein might have been thinking more of "generic" than
>"simple".
>
>But nobody asked me.
>
>Terry
>
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>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 21:11:16 -0500
>From: John Donaldson <john@wb5dgq.hounix.org>
>
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