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TCP-Group Digest Sun, 29 Sep 96 Volume 96 : Issue 205
Today's Topics:
FORTH in NOS (2 msgs)
FORTH in NOS (fwd)
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:20:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: jmorriso@bogomips.com (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: FORTH in NOS
>
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:35:35 -0600 (MDT)
> From: wa7nwp@wa7nwp.ampr.org
> Subject: FORTH in NOS
>
> It's very possible I'm imagining this. There's been a lot of XX's(*)
> over the past few years.. But I think I remember somebody, back
> in the late 80's or very early 90's posting to this group that
> he had added a Forth engine to NOS.
FORTH? How 80's! Now a Java engine would be slick.
>
> Bill - WA7NWP
> vodall@bigsky.com
>
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:52:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Horne <bhorne@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Subject: FORTH in NOS
>
> >
> > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:35:35 -0600 (MDT)
> > From: wa7nwp@wa7nwp.ampr.org
> > Subject: FORTH in NOS
> >
> > It's very possible I'm imagining this. There's been a lot of XX's(*)
> > over the past few years.. But I think I remember somebody, back
> > in the late 80's or very early 90's posting to this group that
> > he had added a Forth engine to NOS.
>
> FORTH? How 80's! Now a Java engine would be slick.
>
> >
> > Bill - WA7NWP
> > vodall@bigsky.com
> >
What's wrong with FORTH? Dos Equis love if honk then!
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Bill Horne
bhorne@lynx.neu.edu
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:22:54 -0600 (MDT)
From: wa7nwp@wa7nwp.ampr.org
Subject: FORTH in NOS (fwd)
> > Subject: FORTH in NOS
> >
> > But I think I remember somebody, back
> > in the late 80's or very early 90's posting to this group that
> > he had added a Forth engine to NOS.
>
> FORTH? How 80's! Now a Java engine would be slick.
>
> > Bill - WA7NWP
> > vodall@bigsky.com
>
> jmorriso@bogomips.com ve7jpm@ve7jpm.ampr.org jmorriso@ve7ubc.ampr.org
Yes it would. And BASIC. And PERL. And many other higher level
interpreted languages.
It's my opinion (and very humble at that here on this discussion group) that
a weakness of NOS is its lack of a high level, demand loaded, shared
resource language for user applications and servers. Right now, the
mailbox and all other functions are hard coded at compile time. Changes
are not trivial and few possess the skill and even fewer the time to
work on the core program.
I (humbly) believe that if these processes were coded in some interpreted
language it would open a whole new range of applications. Taking an
existing package and modifying it or using it as a starting point for
a new application would be far easier than with the current setup.
With separate applications like this, developers could share their
work with out having to recompile NOS.
I'm imagining an easily configurable generic installation of these
packages. For example, using an IATTACH (interpreted attach)...
<iattach> <protocol> <address> <language> <source-file>
iattach tcp 23 java pbbs.jav
iattach tcp 233 forth netrom.fth
iattach tcp 234 basic biorythm.bas
iattach tcp 235 perl XXbeercount.prl
For the AX25 side of things:
iattach ax25 wa7nwp-1 java pbbs.jav
iattach ax25 wa7nwp-2 forth netrom.fth
iattach ax25 wa7nwp-3 basic biorythm.bas
iattach ax25 wa7nwp-4 perl XXbeercount.prl
With the above set up - either an IP connection to port 235 or an AX25
connect to wa7nwp-4 would run the PERL script that checks the
refrigerator for a count of remaining bottles of Dos Equis.
Brian's Tscript in TNOS is a good step in this direction... It's
just one more language to have to learn.
Most of this is already possible on the *nix boxes. My
personal interest is at the other end of the hardware spectrum.
Thus my focus on Forth, which is ideal for limited hardware
resources.
My fantasy is of spending the day hiking the Continental Divide
trail. Then settling into the tent for a couple QSO's on the 30 meter
QRP rig, followed by catching up on Email and doing some NOS code
hacking on the HP95. (Geek heaven?)
Just connect to wa7nwp-5 for the miles hiked or wa7nwp-6 for the
current QSO count and status towards WAS. Wa7nwp-7 would display
the charge history from the solar panel and current state of
the 12V Gel Cel.
Of course this would all have to be topped off by a nice cold XX beer
replicated by a transporter based on Phil's latest FEC algorithm
optimized to run on the HP95's 8088. :)
Hmmm. I wonder if I dare ask if anybody has the source code
for a Tiny Basic interpreter? 1/2 :)
Bill - WA7NWP
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