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TCP-Group Digest Mon, 9 Sep 96 Volume 96 : Issue 186
Today's Topics:
Anyone running FreeeBSD? (16 msgs)
IPv6 in AX.25?
Wierd compile error
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 12:41:04 +0100 (BST)
From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?
> functioning *differenty* than the good old standard internet.
> Am not really sure how Linux's kernel AX.25 is from ethernet.
Using IP over AX.25 isnt any different to ethernet or slip or anything else.
AX.25 level sockets are just another socket family and work as you would
expect.
s=socket(AF_AX25, SOCK_SEQPACKET,0);
struct sockaddr_ax25 blah;
bind(s,&blah,sizeof(blah));
etc.
Alan
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 21:17:46 +1000 (EST)
From: Carl Makin <cmakin@nla.gov.au>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?
On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Jim Durham wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Alan Cox wrote:
> > If you are going to do that kind of work, do yourself and the whole BSD
> > community a favour - put your AX.25 and IP over AX.25 in the kernel over
> > the BSD socket API. Its not much more work that trying to patch bits
> I'd like to.
I'd like to help.
Carl.
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 12:48:31 +0100 (BST)
From: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox)
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?
> > of their internal details. Am not sure I like the AX.25 network
> > functioning *differenty* than the good old standard internet.
> > Am not really sure how Linux's kernel AX.25 is from ethernet.
> I was under the impression that they didn't support connected-mode
> AX.25 at all?
It supports the following (sorry if this looks like an advert Im actually
just trying to be helpful here honest).
NetROM
IP over NetROM (KA9Q style)
AX.25 VC
AX.25 DG
(IP over both)
G8BPQ AX.25 over ethernet
With drivers for: Generic SCC cards, KISS, Baycom 1200 and 9600, PI and PT
cards.
Alan
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 10:16:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Brian A. Lantz" <brian@lantz.com>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?
On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Graham Broadbridge wrote:
> > One of the things
> > KO4KS once listed under thoughts for future TNOS's was to split
> > out each of the servers into separate executables in a more
> > traditional Unix fashion.
>
> Yep, Brian's certainly said that. Next thing he did was build an HTTP
> server
> into TNOS.
Yep, I HAVE said that, and that IS still the long-range direction....
> That is the primary reason I went straight Linux AX25 and dropped TNOS.
Sorry to see you go. Especially for such a poor reason.
The HTTP server was added so that the BBS could be accessed VIA HTTP, and
because the majority of xNOS users are STILL DOS users. A Unix HTTP
daemon does them NO good. Many had asked, so I decided to kill two birds
with one stone, and used it as the method to allow the PBBS to be
available on the Web.
I'm sorry that you are resistent to new ideas, but there are now *MANY*
new web sites up for MSDOS TNOS users, and those folks are very glad to
have it.
The LINT'ed source tree is about done, and the next release is going into
beta soon, eliminating BorlandC, and using DJGPP (thanks to Phil).
When the last of the clean up from the move is complete, and I'm on only
ONE compiler, then I will start making the changes to allow UNIX users to
use TNOS as it is, or to compile it into modules.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Brian A. Lantz http://www.lantz.com brian@lantz.com
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while (memory_available) {
eat_major_portion_of_memory (no_real_reason);
if (feel_like_it)
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gates_bank_balance++;
}
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dennis Rosenauer <rosenave@octoblob.rfnet.sfu.ca>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?
According to Alan Cox:
>
> > What I think is really needed as a pair of processes, one for send and
> > one for receive that can block when nothing is going through them and not
> > continually "loop", wasting processor cycles, and that do AX.25 and
> > function as a specialized IP router with features like RSPF.
>
> If you are going to do that kind of work, do yourself and the whole BSD
> community a favour - put your AX.25 and IP over AX.25 in the kernel over
> the BSD socket API. Its not much more work that trying to patch bits
> of wampes and stuff together and it gives you a much nicer final result.
>
Glenn Davis who was (is?) at the University of Alberta ported an AX.25
protocol stack to BSDI 1.x. It seems to be fairly well done. I looked
at the patches with the idea of porting it to FreeBSD but there just
aren't the hours in the day. FreeBSD and BSDI are very similar in
kernel construction, although a bit of extra work may be required to
port the protocol stack to a 4.4Lite variation from the orignal BNR2
based release.
He made the sources available a while back and e-mailed them to all those
who were interested. I looked at the sources and I don't see any copyright
that would prohibit redistribution. Perhaps that would be a good place
to start for anyone wanted to do and AX.25 port.
Dennis.
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