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'If you want to make your spouse pay attention to what you say...
             Talk in your sleep!'

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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:30:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Durham <durham@durham.UCSD.EDU>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?

On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Carl Makin wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Jim Durham wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > > If you are going to do that kind of work, do yourself and the whole BSD
> > > community a favour - put your AX.25 and IP over AX.25 in the kernel over
> > > the BSD socket API. Its not much more work that trying to patch bits
> 
> > I'd like to.
> 
> I'd like to help.
> 
> Carl.
> 
> --

Great. The only thing that may be a problem is that I'm committed
to keeping an AX.25 BBS running in connected mode, so it would have
to be an implementation that does connected-mode as well as IP
encapsulation in UI packets. I'm sure you're not interested in that
aspect ;-) .

There is X.25 support in FreeBSD already, I believe. That might
make it easier to implement AX.25.

-Jim Durham
           

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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:33:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jim Durham <durham@durham.UCSD.EDU>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?

On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Alan Cox wrote:

> > > of their internal details. Am not sure I like the AX.25 network
> > > functioning *differenty* than the good old standard internet.
> > > Am not really sure how Linux's kernel AX.25 is from ethernet.
> > I was under the impression that they didn't support connected-mode
> > AX.25 at all? 
> 
> It supports the following (sorry if this looks like an advert Im actually
> just trying to be helpful here honest).
> 
>       NetROM
>       IP over NetROM (KA9Q style)
>       AX.25 VC
>       AX.25 DG
>       (IP over both)
>       G8BPQ AX.25 over ethernet
> 
> With drivers for: Generic SCC cards, KISS, Baycom 1200 and 9600, PI and PT
> cards.
>       
Sorry for redundancy.. I should read all my mail before replying to any!

Anyhow, I don't know what AX.25 VC and DG are. Digipeat and Virtual 
connection? Duh....

-Jim Durham
           

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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 18:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?

On 00:53:04 alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
>> Doesn't that *prevent* standard applications from routing thru AX25,
>> applications that use AF_INET as the address family? And isn't
>> that the purpose of AF_AX25?
>
>No. 
>
>> Or is the purpose of AF_AX25 to provide a socket connection to another
>> packet station using *only* AX.25 w/o IP?
>
>Exactly.

Thats enough to justify it in my mind. And continuing to read between
the lines and guess, an AF_INET socket should produce IP encapsulated
in AX.25, if an AX.25 interface happens to be the proper route?

>> Its important to control what goes over the ethernet and what goes
>> over RF.
>
>I tend to add firewall rules for this, otherwise gated likes to try and
>talk OSPF over the radio port, and mrouted looks for other nodes etc.

I wasn't clear if AF_AX25 was there to act like a crude firewall.

Think I've learned something in this thread.

73,

73,

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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 09:51:57 +1000
From: Terry Dawson <terry@perf.no.itg.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Anyone running FreeeBSD?

Alan Cox wrote:

> It supports the following (sorry if this looks like an advert Im actually
> just trying to be helpful here honest).
> 
>         NetROM
>         IP over NetROM (KA9Q style)
>         AX.25 VC
>         AX.25 DG
>         (IP over both)
>         G8BPQ AX.25 over ethernet
> 
> With drivers for: Generic SCC cards, KISS, Baycom 1200 and 9600, PI and PT
> cards.


Don't forget:

        Rose (experimentally)


and I think IP over the G8BPQ/Ethernet stuff is possible now too.

Terry

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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 12:53:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: jmorriso@bogomips.com (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: IPv6 in AX.25?

Is there a PID and encapsulation for IPv6 in AX.25?

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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:04:16 +0000 (EST)
From: csmall@gonzo.apana.org.au
Subject: Wierd compile error

G'day All,
        Some of you may of remembered I had a problem linking tnos a few
months
ago.  Well I'm pleased to say I have got around the problem, but I don't
know why.  I've also cc'ed this message to tcp-group, as this problem may be
a generic-nos one.

I had two new files called rspf2.c and rspf2dmp.c that are compiled into the
INTERNET and DUMP libraries respectively.  Currently both files have only
one function apiece, ntohrspf_rrh() and rspf_dump().  rspf_dump() calls
ntohrspf_rrh().

Both files compile ok and go into their respective libraries.  But when we
try to link all the libraries together (in that big-bang step to actually
make the binary), we get:
        rspf2dmp.o(.text+0xa1): undefined reference to 'ntohrspf_rrh'

How do I get around this?  In config.c
        #ifdef RSPF
                { RSPF_PTCL,    rspf_input },
        #endif  /* RSPF */
If I change the first line so it says 
        #if defined(RSPF) || defined(RSPF2)
and re-compile, it links.

Remember, I have not, as yet, written a rspf_input() function.  Infact if
RSPF is undefined and RSPF2 is defined, rspf_input() doesn't appear
anywhere.  What's going on?  Why does this change make the file linkable?

        - Craig vk2xlz


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