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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:48:50 -0400
From: "Gary L. Grebus" <glg@balrog.k8lt.ampr.org>
Subject: ETHRAX25 - WinNOS ?

> All sounds good but under 3.11 with MS TCP/IP Stack installed whenever I
install the driver it locks the TNC up (The TNC Has a KISS Rom in) when you
reset it, it come backs up ok, but when you try and use Windows telnet,etc. it
just sits there and does nothing....
>

I've never tried with the MS TCP/IP stack.  Does it support the Packet Driver
interface?  All of my testing has been with Trumpet.

I hope to release a new version of ETHRAX25 fairly soon with a couple of
bugs fixed (for example, incoming broadcast packets currently get lost).

> I have loaded the winpkt as it suggests and ax25conf to set callsign
params,etc but no luck ???, There is source provided but it is in Machine code
:-( I know absoultely nothing about Machine code perhaps someone could look at
it and suggest a C version ? :-)
>

I created ETHRAX25 by hacking an existing SLIP driver.  I intended it more as
a "proof of concept".   There is now some local interest in using the driver,
so I'm putting a little more work into it.   If someone really wanted to
rewrite it in C, their time would be better spent developing an equivalent
driver with an NDIS interface that could be used with Win95 and Windows NT.

73,
        /gary


Gary L. Grebus          Home:  glg@k8lt.ampr.org
Brookline, NH           Work:  grebus@zk3.dec.com
                        Ham Packet: K8LT@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 07:56:52 -0400
From: Gwyn Reedy <gwyn@paccomm.com>
Subject: FW: advanced networking

Dennis Rosenauer[SMTP:rosenave@octoblob.rfnet.sfu.ca] said:

>We have a 56K mountian top repeater, we can get at it most of the year
>with a 4x4.  It is simply a bit regen, a modem, some RF gear and a
>duplexer.  We kept it really stupid.  We wanted a bent pipe with
>some help in taking care of hidden transmitters.  The only control we
>have on it is to shut it down and to transmit a PN code to help align
>antennas etc (we can look at the RX eye and tune and move the antenna
>at the home ham shack for minimum ISI).  That control is on a separate
>RX and uses a simple DTMF decoder.

I just want to comment that I believe Dennis and crew are using the
original DSY modem design.

The current design has a built-in provision for remotely resetting an
attached device. It will also serve as a repeater without benefit of any
attached computer.


Gwyn Reedy, W1BEL
PacComm Packet Radio Systems
http://www.paccomm.com

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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:40:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: jmorriso@bogomips.com (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: Linux router boot floppy

I once built a "hacker friendly" single stand alone boot floppy with
Linux and AX.25, TCP/IP, ethernet and PI support on it. It's fairly
easy to fit all that's needed on one floppy.

I started playing around with this again, with the intention of
making it much more flexible and user friendly, and also supporting
a lot more hardware with loadable kernel modules.

Due to the disk space limits on a floppy, even with compression, I
don't think it possible to fit a "user friendly" setup on a single
1.44MB floppy. It might be possible make one for two floppies,
and people would have to switch disks at boot, or for unattended
operation, install a second 1.44MB drive. A hard disk would be nice,
but this could make reliability a problem, or cost, if one were
building routers for resale.

Does anyone have ideas for a cheap way to cram more onto a single
floppy or flash EPROM?

About the only way I can think of is to creat a single "hacker
friendly" boot floppy, but include scripts to tftp a larger image
with the user interface on it. This could be tricky for end users
with Windows to setup, but a tftp server for windows could be
packaged with the image.


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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:02:11 +1000
From: Terry Dawson <terry@perf.no.itg.telstra.com.au>
Subject: Linux router boot floppy

John Paul Morrison wrote:
>
> I once built a "hacker friendly" single stand alone boot floppy with
> Linux and AX.25, TCP/IP, ethernet and PI support on it. It's fairly
> easy to fit all that's needed on one floppy.

...

> Due to the disk space limits on a floppy, even with compression, I
> don't think it possible to fit a "user friendly" setup on a single
> 1.44MB floppy. It might be possible make one for two floppies,
> and people would have to switch disks at boot, or for unattended
> operation, install a second 1.44MB drive. A hard disk would be nice,
> but this could make reliability a problem, or cost, if one were
> building routers for resale.

John,
I think we should collaborate. I think I have an approach that is
both space efficient and 'user friendly'. I'm not a fan of modules
in such a situation, but I can see that they do offer some slight
disk space advantages.

Terry

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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 01:30:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: Linux router boot floppy

John Paul Morrison wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:

 JPM> Does anyone have ideas for a cheap way to cram more onto a
 JPM> single floppy or flash EPROM?

 JPM> About the only way I can think of is to creat a single "hacker
 JPM> friendly" boot floppy, but include scripts to tftp a larger
 JPM> image with the user interface on it. This could be tricky for
 JPM> end users with Windows to setup, but a tftp server for windows
 JPM> could be packaged with the image.

I've been thinking about this issue all day, since reading a similar comment
from Terry Dawson.  It seems to me that the approach would be to provide a
board that accesses an EPROM bank in page mode, such that the pages are made
to
look like disk sectors.  Essentially, we could make a board very easily with
just enough intelligence to emulate a floppy or IDE controller, but to provide
the data out of EPROM one sector at a time.



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