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TCP-Group Digest Tue, 27 Aug 96 Volume 96 : Issue 173
Today's Topics:
advanced networking (12 msgs)
ETHRAX25 - WinNOS ? (3 msgs)
FW: advanced networking
Linux router boot floppy (3 msgs)
Nice NOS code
PPP/SLIP in connected AX25? (5 msgs)
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:49:44 +1000
From: "Graham Broadbridge" <grahamb@peachy.apana.org.au>
Subject: advanced networking
> I've successfully built a single 1.44Mb floppy disk that was bootable
> that contained enough to boot linux and act as a router with ethernet,
> ax25, netrom and ppp support, and supported firewalling, masquerade
> etc as well. It requires 4Mb of ram in the machine, but the rest is
> easy.
Surely the normal reason for a reboot in a remote environment is power
failure. Given that, a power failure would normally be a result of some
unusual weather conditions.
In that instance, the dramatic temperature changes would not suggest
that a bootable floppy would fare well in the long term.
Regards,
graham.
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 05:54:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: ssampson@othello.UCSD.EDU (Steve Sampson)
Subject: advanced networking
> Steve Sampson wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
>
> SS> OK, who's got the Linux for a home 386, AX.25, NE2000, 8 meg
> SS> router. Put it up on the ftp server. No more than quarterly
> SS> updates, we don't need to go on an upgrade ride to hell...
>
> Bruce Perens, bruce@pixar.com, was still working on his "Linux for Hams"
> release the last I knew.
He's been working on that for years. I haven't seen a version yet. I'm
sure it'll be wonderful, it's just that we don't know how many more years
he's going to need.
The one-floppy router idea is perfect. Get that posted to ftp.ucsd.edu,
and 95% of us will be happy.
I do run linux at home, but not for Ham radio. I'm using it to work my
ISP. My latest march CD of RedHat is based on the stable kernel before
ax.25 was included. But I wouldn't run ax.25 on this machine anyway, I'd
leave that for another box on the network, like a one-floppy router, with
Ethernet and a DMA card.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:19:28 -0500
From: "Steven R. Sampson" <ssampson@othello.tinker.af.mil>
Subject: advanced networking
Graham Broadbridge wrote:
>
> Surely the normal reason for a reboot in a remote environment is power
> failure. Given that, a power failure would normally be a result of some
> unusual weather conditions.
>
> In that instance, the dramatic temperature changes would not suggest
> that a bootable floppy would fare well in the long term.
The floppy version would do nice on a flash card that emulated a
floppy.
Sounds like an excellent version to base things on. I'd like to
see it.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 07:29:48 -0700 (MST)
From: Bob Nielsen <nielsen@primenet.com>
Subject: advanced networking
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Graham Broadbridge wrote:
> > I've successfully built a single 1.44Mb floppy disk that was bootable
> > that contained enough to boot linux and act as a router with ethernet,
> > ax25, netrom and ppp support, and supported firewalling, masquerade
> > etc as well. It requires 4Mb of ram in the machine, but the rest is
> > easy.
>
> Surely the normal reason for a reboot in a remote environment is power
> failure. Given that, a power failure would normally be a result of some
> unusual weather conditions.
>
> In that instance, the dramatic temperature changes would not suggest
> that a bootable floppy would fare well in the long term.
Not necessarily. There is a local mountaintop (> 9k ft.) node
which has been running BPQ on an XT quite reliably for several years. It
runs off a floppy with no hard drive, no monitor, no keyboard, but does
have a watchdog to reboot in case of a cpu hang. There is enough
equipment in the building that it probably doesn't get too cold, although
I don't have any figures on the operating temperatures.
Bob
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 15:43:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: advanced networking
Terry Dawson wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
TD> I've successfully built a single 1.44Mb floppy disk that was
TD> bootable that contained enough to boot linux and act as a
TD> router with ethernet, ax25, netrom and ppp support, and
TD> supported firewalling, masquerade etc as well. It requires
TD> 4Mb of ram in the machine, but the rest is easy.
I would be EXTREMELY interested in this. I wonder if we could make a couple
of
meg of EPROM do this instead of a real floppy disk?
-- Mike
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:28:00 -0500
From: David A Willmore <willmore@cig.mot.com>
Subject: advanced networking
On Aug 24, 11:17pm, Steve Sampson wrote:
> I'm always impressed with those single-card PC's (embedded controllers)
> advertised in Circuit Cellar INK. There are some that are affordable.
> I think someone said it many times in the past, that this would be the
> easy route. I don't know if the Gracilis drivers have been improved
> any, but a CPU, Twin card, and an Ethernet on a passive backplane should
> foot the bill. The modem side (56k) is advertised at $350 assembled by
> PacComm. They also sell the Twin card. That leaves a transverter.
> I don't have any recent Ham mags, but I suspect a 1200 MHz one is
To be continued in digest: tcp_96_173B
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