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MEA> Naeh, I would suggest feeding the bill to ARRL -- isn't that
MEA> more of their turf anyway ? If not, perhaps TAPR would
MEA> sponsor us ?
I think Brian is trying to make a point here.
-- Mike
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:57:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Cserenyi <zsolt@direct.ca>
Subject: NIC billing for AMPR.ORG
I'm ashamed to ask such a stupid question,
but someone has to do it, :))) so, there it goes:
what if nobody pays the bill ?
George
On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Crompton Administrator wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, James R. Hay wrote:
>
> > Obviously the invoice which Brian received was generated automatically.
> > I was under the (probably wrong) impression that domains previously
> > registered were not subject to the registration fees.
> >
> That was not my understanding - I thought they were going to start
> charging for all domains on a yearly basis at some point. I supsect that
> everyone will get one of these notices - I got mine recently.
>
> I do not think that we should pay it without first attempting to have
> it waived. You would have to look at the rules - are any domains
> fees waived - seems to me there was something about that. I think the
> .us domain is free not sure about others??
>
> $50 spread out amoung the thousand of TCP/IP'ers worldwide is really
> insignificant. I suspect that this money is only used for the
> administration of issuing domains? If it goes towards anything else
> in support of the internet then we should certainly pay our fair share.
>
> Maybe the ARRL would foot the bill. In any event if it turns out we
> do have to pay it it should be some representing organization, which
> we in turn support, that pays the bill - like arrl or tapr - not an
> individual.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:05:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: "James R. Hay" <jrhay@HayA.QC.CA>
Subject: NIC billing for AMPR.ORG
On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Alan Cox wrote:
> > + we could attempt to obtain a new domain name that isn't under the
> > aegis of the internic - in some other country, or maybe an international
> > domain, or the like
>
> ampr.int is logical anyway.
I would certainly support that. As I think of it it is logical. The
amateur domain is truly international.
Jim, VE2VE
James R. Hay jrhay@haya.qc.ca
James R. Hay and Associates
P.O. Box 46003 ax25: ve2ve@ve2tcp#mtl.pq.can.noam
Pointe Claire, QC amprnet: ve2ve@ve2tcp.ampr.org
H9R 5R4
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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:27:50 -0400
From: "C. Harald Koch" <chk@border.com>
Subject: NIC billing for AMPR.ORG
In message <m0uWUZj-0005FaC@lightning.swansea.linux.org.uk>, Alan Cox writes:
> > + we could attempt to obtain a new domain name that isn't under the
> > aegis of the internic - in some other country, or maybe an international
> > domain, or the like
>
> ampr.int is logical anyway.
The .int TLD is reserved for organisations that exist due to international
treaties. The ITU would qualify; AMPR would not.
--
C. Harald Koch | Border Network Technologies Inc.
chk@border.com | Senior System Developer
+1 416 368 7157 (voice) | 20 Toronto Street, Suite 400, Toronto ON M5C 2B8
+1 416 368 7789 (fax) | Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 08:15:56 EDT
From: n1kio@n1kio.ampr.org (Tom Saluti, Rochester, NH)
Subject: Re: NIC billing for AMPR.ORG
X-When all else fails, Read the Docs !
X-What me Worry (
X-Mailer: PCElm 3.21
In message <31C762A0.28169D5A@perf.no.itg.telecom.com.au>
terry@perf.no.itg.telecom.com.au said:
> Brian Kantor wrote:
>
> > + we could try to appeal to the Internic that AMPR.ORG is a special case
> > and we should get it for free, much as hams get allowances worldwide.
> > They might even make it a corporate donation.
> >
> > + we could refuse to pay and try to get a legal injunction against them
> > deleting the domain name based on some aspect of contract law maybe
> >
> > + we could find someone who is willing to handle the collection of
> > donations and pay them
> >
> > + we could each send one penny (or whatever the smallest coin of our
> > respective country is) individually to the Internic in payment
> >
> > + we could attempt to obtain a new domain name that isn't under the
> > aegis of the internic - in some other country, or maybe an international
> > domain, or the like
> >
> > Suggestions? Volunteers?
>
> Suggestions 2 and 4 would be fun, but not worth the hassle.
> Suggestion 1 would give us all a warm-fuzzy if it were successful.
> Suggestion 5 would be pretty cool, an international domain would be fitting.
> Suggestion 3 would need to be repeated each billing period.
>
> Perhaps trying 1 and 5 in parallel would be worth a shot and in the event
> that both look successful someone (you Brian?) make an arbitrary decision
> as to which to proceed with.
>
> Anyone with sufficient contacts/expertise willing to volunteer to
> follow them up ?
Personaly I like #4, I'll gladly write out my check to them for .01 cent
and mail it off. It would be like the guy here in town several years ago
who to complain about the high property taxes went to the town hall to
pay his taxes with bags of loose pennys ! caused quite a stir.
(and the taxes are still high)
73 from Tom
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