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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Tuesday, September 09, 2003.
1. RE: Adding location "SMARTS" to APRS (HLR VLR)
2. Re: TinyTrak3-TripmateUSB interface
3. Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com list has MIC in it - huh ?
4. Re: RS Digi Traveler @ $39.95
5. RE: Homeport
6. Re: Homeport
7. Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com list has MIC in it - huh ?
8. Re: Homeport
9. Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com list has MIC in it - huh ?
10. Re: Homeport
11. Re: Homeport
12. Re: Homeport
13. Re: Homeport
14. Re: Homeport
15. Re: Homeport
16. Re: Homeport
17. Re: Homeport
18. Re: Homeport
19. Re: Homeport
20. Re: Homeport
21. 'How-to' on setting up an Igate
22. Re: Homeport
23. Re: Homeport
24. Re: 'How-to' on setting up an Igate
25. Re: Homeport
26. Re: Homeport
27. Re: Homeport
28. Diff between homeport and path designator methods
29. Re: Homeport
30. Re: Diff between homeport and path designator methods
31. Global APRS messaging
32. Revised Homeport Proposal
33. Re: Revised Homeport Proposal
34. Re: Revised Homeport Proposal
35. RE: Global APRS messaging
36. APRS symbol updates WAS: Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com
37. RE: Global APRS messaging
38. RE: APRS symbol updates WAS: Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com
39. Re: APRS symbol updates WAS: Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com
40. Re: Homeport
41. Re: Homeport
42. Re: Homeport
43. APRS Message Server
44. RE: APRS Message Server
45. Re: 'How-to' on setting up an Igate
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Subject: RE: Adding location "SMARTS" to APRS (HLR VLR)
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 14:05:19 +1000
X-Message-Number: 1
I would like to try some tests, and connect to an igate and try this each
time a packet comes in:-
update data set home_igate = " " where calsign= xxxx
See how fast it is
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Subject: Re: TinyTrak3-TripmateUSB interface
From: "Andrew VK4TEC" <vk4tec@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:30:08 +1000
X-Message-Number: 2
Do u have voltage ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rocco Pistilli" <n3fkr@arrl.net>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: [aprssig] TinyTrak3-TripmateUSB interface
I have been unable to interface the new Delorme Tripmate USB, using the
serial adapter cable, to the TinyTrak3. I was hoping this setup would be
plug-n-play. Surprise! Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Rocky, N3FKR
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Subject: Re: Node Symbol on map.findu.com list has MIC in it - huh ?
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 04:22:04 EDT
X-Message-Number: 3
In a message dated 9/8/2003 9:48:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jj@aprsworld.net writes:
>I'm assuming you meant aprsworld instead of aprsplus?
>
> -Jim KB0THN
Yep it was a typo! However, the same source appears to be used in all
three! (APRSplus, APRSworld and findu) since I see some of the same wrong
symbols and identical artwork in the symbols of all of them.
My investigation of the discrepencies between APRS symbol sets originated
when I started to transplant the standard (in the US at least) icons used
by APRSplus, findu, APRSworld, etc into UIview which has it's own set of
symbols created by it's author Rodger G4IDE. Some of these symbols are
slightly different from the US customary ones and might not be obvious to
US users. Furthermore, UI-View's default symbols are 20x20 pixels instead
of 16x16. The larger grid allows for more detail in symbols, but in
intensely active areas like southern Cal, the larger symbols tend to
overlap and clutter the map more. I also wanted the brighter primary
colors of the US icons instead of the more subdued pastels of Rodger's
designs to cut through the clutter of the colors on the Precision Mapping
6.0 screen.
This project started by using Adobe Photoshop to open the BMP files of
symbols provided with APRSplus and the equivalent files provided with
UI-View. The layout of these BMP images is completely different. APRSplus
uses a single long row of 96 cells while UI-View uses a rectangular grid of
6 rows of 16 cells. I used the rectangular crop tool in Photoshop to
painstakingly copy 16x16 pixel cells from the APRSplus set and then paste
into the corresponding positions in a new UI-View set based on a 16x16
pixel grid instead of the original 20x20.
The first thing I discovered is that many of the symbols in the original
UI-View set bore no resemblance at all to what I was pasting into
corresponding positions in the new set I was making.
I spent several hours comparing symbol sets in APRSplus, UI-View, findu (on
the "stations heard nearby" page), the symbols pages at:
http://maps.aprsworld.net/mapserver/symbols/aprs-symbols/pri/
and
http://maps.aprsworld.net/mapserver/symbols/aprs-symbols/sec/
and finally the official icon list in:
APRS PROTOCOL REFERENCE Version 1.0 (the PDF document on the TAPR
website -- I am assuming that this reference is the final word on icon
assignments unless informed otherwise. ).
According to the protocol reference, only UI-View is currently assigning the
correct symbols to every code letter in both the primary and secondary sets.
For some positions, I have had to design icons from scratch to fill the
designated slots. For others, I have borrowed some of G4IDE's designs for
UI-View and shrunk them to fit a 16x16 pixel cell. Especially nice are his
symbols for "Grid Square".
I may throw out some requests for comments and suggestions on this list for
new designs.
For starters, what should an icon for a "Node" look like? I am considering
two designs I have created. One is a series of concentric circles in
lighter and darker red. The other is a small round black spot with 4 thin
lines radiating out of it at 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees.
Another one is the missing SSTV icon. If you set the D700 or TH-D7 to
transmit "SSTV" as an icon (upper-case T in the primary symbol set) you get
a thunderstorm (a symbol assigned to upper-case T in the secondary set some
time ago) when viewed on APRSplus, APRSworld or findu. Very relevent to me
since I use it in my APRS beacon for WA8LMF mobile (my "mobile SSTV
LiveCAM").
I created a new symbol of a TV monitor with vertical color bars for
SSTV about a year ago to fix the display in MY copies of APRSplus, only to
discover that G4IDE had already beat me to it with a nearly identical
design in UI-View.
I have finished updating the primary set and am now working on the
secondary set.
Anyone interested in copies of my new layout for review?
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: Re: RS Digi Traveler @ $39.95
From: Robert W Burton <kd4ydc@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 06:05:36 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
Can you post these pictures somewhere :-) I would love to see what box
you used. I would love to try the same thing.
Thanks!
Robert
KD4YDC
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Miller
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 3:12 AM
To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group
Subject: [aprssig] Re: RS Digi Traveler @ $39.95
The only difference between the PDA and laptop versions is the software and
cable bundle. One thing to watch out for is that you have to apply at
least 1 volt on the RX pin to wake it up. See
http://www.grundlgasse.at/thomas/digitraveler/. I built a little board for
my TT3 that goes between the TT3 and the GPS - it's got a 6-volt regulator
that operates off the 12-volt pass-through and also puts a voltage on the
required pin. I pulled the GPS out of its enclosure and hot-glued it to
the inside of the lid of a project box. It only takes up about 3/8" of
space. The box has four hard drive voice coil magnets epoxied to the bottom
and it holds quite well on a car trunk or roof.
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: RE: Homeport
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:19:44 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 5
>>Weighing all the above, I lean towards explicitly declaring the target....
>
>How *would* you "look up their local IGate"?
Well, I would zoom in on my APRS map to the target area. Look for the
callsign of the nearest IGate and use that one. Kinda like using APRS for
what APRS was designed to do...
Bob, WB4APR
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Subject: Re: Homeport
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:23:55 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 6
>I'll "second" Jim's, WA6OFT, idea of using the CLLI..
>In my own case, as an example, BMTNON## is univerally
>known as an exchange in Brampton, Ontario, Canada.
Not by 99.99% of APRS operators, it isnt.
Why not use VE3XYZ which anyone of the 20,000 APRS operators worldwide can
see by zooming in *on-their-APRS-maps* to Brampton? APRS is a resource.
WHy not use it for APRS?
Bob
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