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Subject: Re: Homeport
From: Neil Johnson <njohnsn@njohnsn.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:20:34 -0500
X-Message-Number: 41
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 08:12 pm, John Langtry, VE3NEC wrote:
>Here, here, Bob !
>
>I could not agree with you more - the "smart engineers"
>are putting far too much technology into ordinary machines,
>than most of us (mortals) want, or even need !
>
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>This is all well and fine, and I'm told that the use of this
>computer "intelligence" is more frugal with the use of water,
>and power (but now I have to power a large computer and its
>peripheral boards and the "stepper" motor). This machine is so
>complex, that they don't put the S.D. on the back cover anymore,
>they give you an "A" sized sheet, with all the interconnects !
My friend who lives in the country and has to pay premium for rural water
and has to heat his house and water with propane figures his new washer
and dryer will pay for it self in less than two years.
If the microcontroller goes out in my high-efficiency gas furnace I will
have no heat at all, but I sure like the money it saves during a cold Iowa
Winter.
And I like that fact my "old" (95) Buick LeSabre with 6-cylinders gets the
same highway gas mileage as did my much smaller '89 Honda Accord with a 4.
And I DEFINITELY am not going to give up my LCD display for a huge watt
hungry TV Tube. I won't miss Fly-back transformers at all.
>They tell me, that the next generation; No problem, I can "instruct"
>my washer and dryer with a web-based interface, which I can use
>remotely from my office. (Wonderful !!! Can't wait. Yeah, right.)
Yes, the famous "Web enabled" washing machine and refrigerator. I admit I
have to agree with you on that one. Although, I liked the toaster that
checked the weather and then put a picture of a sun, rain cloud, or
snowflake on your toast depending on that day's weather forecast :)
>But all I want are clean clothes !!!!
>
>I'm at the point now, where I'll pay a manufacturer *extra* not to
>put a microprocessor in my appliances or vehicles !!!
Hey! I'll trade you an old 78RPM record player for your CD player. After all,
don't you just want to listen to some music ?
--
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.
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Subject: Re: Homeport
From: David VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:42:22 -0500
X-Message-Number: 42
>And I like that fact my "old" (95) Buick LeSabre with 6-cylinders gets the
>same highway gas mileage as did my much smaller '89 Honda Accord with a 4.
my car just had it's first engine maintainance, outside oil and filter
changes. i had to change the plugs, at 115,000 miles.
>Yes, the famous "Web enabled" washing machine and refrigerator. I admit I have
>to agree with you on that one. Although, I liked the toaster that checked the
>weather and then put a picture of a sun, rain cloud, or snowflake on your
>toast depending on that day's weather forecast :)
it's just a tool. how you use it makes the difference.
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Subject: APRS Message Server
From: "Andrew VK4TEC" <vk4tec@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:46:46 +1000
X-Message-Number: 43
Why don't we invent a message server.
It has a retry scheme, and if you off air, it does not get so aggressive,
but if it hears you are on air, it attempts to re-send your outstanding
messages to you ?
And if it hears from you, in the aprs stream it would know which way to
send the messages out ?
You could request if there are messages for you as well .
They could die off after 7 days if not delivered.
Food for thought
Andrew
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Subject: RE: APRS Message Server
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@home.miller.org>
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:32:38 -0700
X-Message-Number: 44
I like that idea a lot better than the current IGATE messaging scheme.
Leave it up to a couple of central message servers to monitor the IS, queue
the messages, and direct them to the appropriate IGATE. Too much smarts in
the IGATEs, and too much opportunity for stuff to go wrong.
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Subject: Re: 'How-to' on setting up an Igate
From: KC7ZRU <kc7zru@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:46:17 -0600
X-Message-Number: 45
Rochte, Robert wrote:
>Does anyone have a "How-to" type document available that describes how to
>set up an Igate? I would like to set one up here at the Academy using a
>Linux-based server, but I'm really not sure where to begin (software, etc.)
>-any help would be much appreciated!
>
>Thanks!
>
>73,
>Robert
>KC8UCH
>
Linux? I-gate?
Do ya want a mapping display two? Then http://www.xastir.org
If iron is in short supply and no need for a mapping display then
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aprsd is a winner
Read the html files that come with it, view the aprsd.conf file - any
further questions, drop 'em here or the aprsd users list (hosted by
sourceforge).
Adi - the sourceforge's 2.2.5-14 has been great here. I don't use the AX.25
parts at all - but seems the loop checks and stability are way good!
73
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