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Subject: RE: New fourth.aprs.net
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:15:53 -0400
X-Message-Number: 31
On 8/27/03 at 4:13 PM Dick Stanich <dick@kb7zva.com> sent:
>Port 10152 basically doesn't exist at this time. The whole system may be
>down soon. Could be down 3-4 days maybe longer. Level 2/Tier 2 servers
>provide excellent connectivity to more than half of the APRS users on the
>internet. That's not an opinion just simple fact.
What is going on now is on port 10151, not 10152. This command:
telnet arizona.aprs2.net 10151
works fine from my keys dsl connection and miami dsl connection, but from
www1.findu.com and www2.findu.com the connection is closed immediately
after it is opened. It isn't a router or path issue, otherwise the
connection wouldn't open in the first place. Other ports, like the status
port, work fine from all servers. Hard to imagine this being part of the
moving process...perhaps there is another explaination other than
deliberate exclusion of findU's IP addresses, but I can't think of one.
This port worked fine up until this morning on www1.findu.com (I'm only
running the monitoring on the primary server, so before it began to fail I
had no reason to try www2).
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Re: Pleasantville, revisited...
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:37:30 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 32
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Jim Duncan wrote:
>...the instituting of a "path police" is absolutely the wrong thing to
>do with APRS. In a busy environment,....a long path is absolutely the
>worst thing for a local network. In a remote, rural area ...it may just
>be the minimum essential to conduct reliable communications.
But this is easily determined by the PathCop software:
Statistically, it has been shown that APRS can support about 50 or so
users on a 1200 baud channel reliably. This is mostly INDEPENDENT of
the area covered. In LA, that area is less than a 12 mile radius. In
Wyoming, that radius may be 120 miles.
All any PathCop software would have to do is to compare the HOP count, to
the number of digipeaters within the 50 user radius of the sender and THAT
uniquely determines the optimum hops for that area. If someone has to
routinely use a path that is significanlty longer than that, then the
local NETWORK needs fixing.
Lets solve the problems, not avoid them.
Bob, WB4APR
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Subject: Re: Pleasantville, revisited...
From: Jim Duncan <jdbandman@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:58:36 -0500
X-Message-Number: 33
I think it is a recipe for the breeding of animosity and is VERY poorly
thought through from that aspect.
Is this really THAT big of a problem? I think the onus of
reporting/contacting lies with the local users, NOT with a piece of
software.
The bottom line is will turning the path police loose on someone REALLY
have the desired effect? I seriously doubt it.
--
73 de Jim, KU0G
Chairman/Coordinator
Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR
First Alert Storm Team KMBC-TV9
Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org
Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org
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Subject: Re: EEPROM Burners
From: Rich Osman <Rich@osman.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:59:47 -0500
X-Message-Number: 34
Almost any EPROM programmer will do these. There are lots on eBay and I
bought my lst one at a hamfest for $15. There are hombrew programmer
designs. Google 'em.
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Subject: Filling the gaps
From: "Dan Edwards" <yedian@tds.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:47:39
X-Message-Number: 35
I live in a mountainous region. On the hilltops 144.39 is filled with
packets. In the valleys, nothing. Putting more digipeaters on the hilltops
doesn't seem to be a reasonable solution. What is the best way to get APRS
into the valleys?
Dan AG4YU
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Subject: Re: ATTN users in Bowling Green, KY
From: "John Langtry, VE3NEC" <ve3nec@sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:15:12 -0400
X-Message-Number: 36
>I think it is Black, 2002 Chevy, Silverado, Extended cab, pickup truck.
Betcha, don't tell me, with a rifle across the back window ! :)
(You guys can; Canucks can't.) Let's not "try" Stan's patience any further.
vy 73 de John VE3NEC
905-873-8715
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