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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Monday, August 25, 2003.
1. Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
2. Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
3. Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
4. Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
5. RF->TCP via either WinAPRS or UI-View32
6. IGate setup question with WXSVR
7. Clock on T-238 One-Wire bus
8. Re: Clock on T-238 One-Wire bus
9. WebUpdateWX
10. Re: IGate setup question with WXSVR
11. WebUpdateWX update
12. EMWIN on APRS
13. Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
14. Re: WebUpdateWX update
15. Precision Mapping
16. RE: Precision Mapping
17. RE: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
18. Re: Precision Mapping
19. MITREK crystals....
20. Path Police Idea
21. PropNET Update
22. Re: Path Police Idea
23. RE: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
24. Re: Path Police Idea
25. Re: Path Police Idea
26. Re: Precision Mapping
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Subject: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:07:48 +1000
X-Message-Number: 1
People...
This is what I do for a job, but mostly with GPRS/GSM and not CMDA. The 1X
and GPRS are cheap since they are able to operate on packet switched data,
and not a voice connection.
[commercial content deleted]
This unit will interface directly to my OziAPRS software, and a small
server can be written to very easally insert the data into the APRS data
stream, and then send the data from the APRS data stream back to the unit,
and out its serial port. Cute application.
I don't have a CDMA version of that, but it is certainly possible. Another
solution is to use the NetGPS software with a PDA to upload the data. Once
again, my OziAPRS software has a server for this too :-)
[commercial content deleted]
Darryl
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Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au
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Subject: Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:10:03 +1000
X-Message-Number: 2
Wes commented...
>won't work with a digital cellphone.. the vocoders are not optimized for
modem tones. It does work with analog
>cellphones, but the FCC is sunsetting the requirement that the carriers
provide analog service in january 2004.
>Isn't it interesting that the whole law about scanners not being able to
recieve 900mhz will soon be a moot point.
More interesting is the fact that here in Australia GSM was chosen because
at the time there was no fallback capability to 800 MHz AMPS. Therefore
since each carrier needed to build their new networks, none had an unfair
advantage.
Darryl
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Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au
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Subject: Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:08:30 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 3
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Phil Thompson wrote:
>Back in 1999 Bob Bruninga wrote an article on commercial tracking via
>cellular service title cellular.txt (ver 8.4.2) utilizing a MIM/Mic-Lite
>
>Does anyone know if this has been updated since then, or
>could this system be updated to utilize the new 1X cellular technology?
Been invcredibly busy.
But no one ever did anything with it and now that cellurlar has gone
digital, my ideas are obsolete...
>I fired off a couple of messages to Bob, the first one back on the 12th, but
>have not as yet received any response.
>
>Phil VE3RD
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
PCsat WEB page http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/pcsat.html
ISS-APRS FAQ: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/iss-faq.html
CUBESAT Designs http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/cubesat.html
APRS LIVE pages http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs.html
APRS SATELLITES http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/astars.html
MIM/Mic-E/Mic-Lite http://ssdl.stanford.edu/mims/
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Subject: Re: Vehicle Tracking via Cell Phone
From: Richard Garcia <k4gps@bellsouth.net>
Date: 25 Aug 2003 08:32:52 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
This appears to be a very interesting delema here with the proposal of
analog's ability to go away in less than 6 months.
The ever popular On-Star system I believe is based on 800 Mhz Analog
using a tried and true Motorola 3w mobile. This is coming out on more
and more GM cars/trucks every year.
This would mean that the On-Star packages in GM cars would disappear
once carriers decide to pull the analog channels. They are not required
to pull them but what the FCC has said is that they can after January.
What would happen then ?? I guess a lot of people will have a GPS in
there car that would be useless except for "hacking". I have read that
at least one ham has managed to do this with a few simple modifications.
Current On-Star support I believe is from Verizon with ATT Wireless as a
roaming partner for areas that Verizon does not have 800 Mhz AMPS.
Anyone on the list have a On-Star ? Maybe you can give Customer Service
a call and throw them a really big curve ball... Let us know what you
find out!
Rich
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Subject: RF->TCP via either WinAPRS or UI-View32
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:18:28 -0600
X-Message-Number: 5
I'm having problems trying to relay my truck to the internet -- it just
doesn't seem to do it here. It works through other stations farther "down
the line", but I can't seem to get it going here. I've tried in the past,
and had problems for hours, then suddenly it started working. Darned if I
can figure out why!
Here's my settings for WinAPRS:
Feed (echo) local data to TCP/IP
Auto Re-connect
Enable outgoing 3rd party messages
These three are checked, and I'm connected to AHUBWEST.NET via port 10154,
using AFilter. Anybody see what's causing my truck to NOT be put into the
internet stream here? The truck is currently using a path of NONE so it
won't get to someone else's station. It's just outside my back yard, so my
(supposed) IGATE setup can hear it directly.
Thanks,
Earl
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
KD5XB-2>APW251,PCSAT-1%:=3425.83N/10313.55W-PHG7150/WinAPRS 2.5.1
-EARL_CLOVIS -251-<630>
SETI@Home: 10876WU/7.07yrs!
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Subject: IGate setup question with WXSVR
From: "Michael J. Wolthuis" <wolthui3@msu.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:31:58 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
Group, I have a quick question. I lost my HD in my APRSd server(Grand
Rapids, MI IGATE), but I have it back online with the latest version.
My question is what to put in the gate2rf field to get the most info
possible to our NWS spotters. We all use APRS here for SkyWarn activity.
I currently have it set as:
Gate2rf GRR* DTX* APX*
This gets me weather bulletins and show up as positions both on Xastir
and D700. What we really want are the SKYWARN bulletins that I believe
come out as SKYGRR then something?
So my question is should I add SKYGRR to the gate2rf command or the
mesg2rf command (which is for message groups) or sky* or nothing at all?
I need to be able to get this info to the spotters that want it. I am
not even sure exactly what comes through the skygrr messages, but I have
had many requests to instate it.
Can you clarify!
Thanks,
Mike Wolthuis
Kb8zgl
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Subject: Clock on T-238 One-Wire bus
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:12:40 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7
Anyone know offhand what the specs are for clock support in the T-238
firmware?
I'm loosing power quite a bit, and while I'm not quite ready to run a line
over to my UPS for my computer, I've been thinking about a clock for
the T-238.
I remember it supports a clock on the '1-Wire'.
Anyone here do that?
Mike
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Subject: WebUpdateWX
From: "Pat Karp" <pkarp@conwaycorp.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:45:37 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
I just uploaded a new version of Webupdatewx to the http://karpfamily.net
website. It now has the ability to save the Radar settings and is able to
download the Canadian radar Images again. Let me know if you have any
problems.
You need to uninstall any installation of WebUpdateWX that you have
installed before Installing version 2.3. Read the ReadMe file for more
information.
Contact me direct at pkarp@conwaycorp.net
73
Pat
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