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Subject: Re: Fixing the digis ID/NOID
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@opentrac.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:03:57 -0700
X-Message-Number: 23
I know this would have to use low-level hardware like a Baycom modem or
soundcard modem, but is there anything out there that'll count the number of
FENDs received at the start of a transmission? Seems like that ought to be
a good way to spot stations with overly long TXD settings. At least, when I
set a long TXD on my KPC-3 it seems to fill in with FENDs. And how about an
ntop-style traffic display that keeps track of the top talkers? Both in
number of packets and airtime used.
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: Re: Speaking of Bob's discussion of RF usage....
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:12:15
X-Message-Number: 24
This is the type of awareness that pays off. I'd like to thank Cap Pennell
for the time he spent with me resolving some of the configuration problems
I had with my own digipeaters. As you see, our local RF traffic is in the
'green', mostly. http://traffic.kb7zva.com
Not bad when you consider we hear 4 southern California digis direct.
Tweaking a local network is a joint effort, and it takes time. Ui-TRAFFIC
certainly was a step in the right direction.
Thanks Dave, for your post.
Dick, KB7ZVA
APRSWest
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Subject: PCsat Dead?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:22:44 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 25
PCsat permanent QRT at hand.
We were hoping she would make it to the 17-31 July full sun period, but
the last packet captured was 7 days prior, on about the 10th of July.
Even up to that point, I was able to connect on a daily basis and command
her in to power conservation mode when I was here during a pass..
Even on 10 July, both sides responded and everything was functional.
Eclipses were 31 minutes and getting shorter every day. But on 16 July,
the day prior to returning to full sun, nothing, nada. She was making some
attempts at a response, but too weak.
Our other command stations report the same. Tonight I was here for a pass
and heard one weak packet. No response.
My guess is that one or more of the NICAD cell's finally shorted, reducing
the voltage below our low-voltage cut-off circuit which was designed to
protect one side from a failed battery on the other.... and in the end
game, to shut it up for good...
We are half way through this full sun period, so I havent given up yet,
but the writing is on the wall... The last packet on 10 July represents
about 21 months 10 days or so and about 4000 deep cycles on the
batteries...(9000 cycles total).
Bob
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Subject: Re: APRS Network Protection.
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@opentrac.org>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:24:12 -0700
X-Message-Number: 26
Bob, can you (or anyone else) clue me in on exactly how APRS text messages
are supposed to behave with regard to retransmissions and IGATEs? When I
look at my RF log, it's not uncommon to see the same message gated out 30
times in a row. For example:
Mon Jun 23 04:12:25 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:12:26 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 04:12:30 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:12:31 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392
/WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 04:18:20 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:18:22 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 04:18:23 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:18:27 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392
/WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 04:42:21 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:42:23 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:55:25 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:55:27 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:58:21 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 04:58:23 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:00:30 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:00:32 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:08:22 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:08:24 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:08:24 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:13:25 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:13:28 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:18:22 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:18:24 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:18:24 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:18:27 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392
/WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:20:30 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:20:32 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:30:28 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:30:31 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:38:21 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:38:22 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:38:23 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:38:27 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392
/WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:40:34 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:40:36 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:40:37 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:40:41 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392
/WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:48:21 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:48:22 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392/
WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:48:23 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:48:26 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*:=3542.56N/08144.03WIPHG7392
/WinAPRS IGATE (Morganton, NC USA EM95dr) -NCBURMORGANTO-272-<630>
Mon Jun 23 05:50:24 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
Mon Jun 23 05:50:27 2003
N1VG>APRS,K6SYV-10*:}W4JRD-4>APW272,TCPIP*,N1VG*::K4REH-14 :What was the
price a piece??{005
That's like an hour and a half of the same message repeating over and over
again. If this is how it's supposed to work, there's got to be a better
way.
Scott
N1VG
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