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Subject: ADMIN: RE: Clueless radio marketeers.
From: "stanzepa@earthlink.net" <stanzepa@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:42:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
This discussion is off-topic. Please take it off the SIG.
Thank-you,
Stan, WA1LOU, SIG administrator
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Subject: Re: APRSD
From: David Shaw <maillist@computer-medic.us>
Date: 23 Jun 2003 06:40:59 -0700
X-Message-Number: 10
Hello Julian, I don't have my aprsd.conf file with me. I did download
the aprsd.conf file. Basicly you need to change the top half.
servercall Is what the users will see when they connect via the
Internet. It's like you callsign but don't use your call. Try aprsGEJ.
MyCall OH8GEJ or OH8GEJ-10
MyLocation City or Town?
MyEmail julian@privateasylum.com
NetBeacon Beacon side for the Internet.
NetBeacon 10 !0000.00NI00000.00W& aprsd Linux APRS Server
munites GPS Comment
TncBeacon RF Beacon
Same as NetBeacon
tncport /dev/ttyS0 This two are your settings for the TNC. Make
tncbaud 9600 sure you set the read write for /dev/ttyS0
for aprsd.
pass You will need to use aprspass to get your password.
ALSO you will need to make changes to INIT.TNC file.
You can also found the DOC to aprsd here:
http://www.wa4dsy.net/aprs/
Anyways if you need help let me know.
73's KE6UPI
David Shaw
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Subject: Re: APRS Symbols for IRLP, I-Gate and Voice Repeater
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 11
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Adi Linden wrote:
>Ok, I found more discrepancies between documentations, default configs,
>and the APRS Protocol Document. What are the accepted proper icons for
>these objects:
>
> IRLP node
> I-Gate
> Voice Repeater
>
>I have them all in on spot. Is there a nice way to have one packet convey
>all the relevant information? From the information I have accumulated so
>far I should be producing 3 different APRS messages, a beacon for the
>i-gate, a message with the IRLP node status and a message with
>voice repeater information...
No, the Voice repeater and IRLP are APRS objects and secondly, there is
no need to duplicate them. Make it an IRLP object packet and it will be
obvious that it is also a repeater that travelers can use.
That one object will be transmitted once every 10 minutes locally. The
IGate position packet is your normal APRS position report and it is
usually transmitted once every 30 mintues if it uses a path of 2 hops or
more...
The ICON for an Igate is the GATE icon with the "I" overlay and the Icon
we will use for IRLP and ECHOLINK will be the /L icon until we can upgrade
all APRS software to add one that can take overlays for I or E...
Bob
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Subject: Re: APRSD
From: "Julian \(OH8GEJ\)" <julian@privateasylum.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:59:53 +0300
X-Message-Number: 12
thanks David.
Ill have another go at it with this info.
Best regards
Julian
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Subject: Re: APRSD
From: Adi Linden <adil@adis.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:02:26 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Number: 13
>tncport /dev/ttyS0 This two are your settings for the TNC. Make
>tncbaud 9600 sure you set the read write for /dev/ttyS0
> for aprsd.
...
>>I would like to setup a Digi/Igate for my local area and was thinking of
>>using Debian Linux running aprsd with ft-23r and baypac BP-2M.
Just wondering, isn't the baypac BP-2M a Baycom style modem requiring
ax.25 support in the kernel and an aprsd with ax.25 support?
Adi
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Adi Linden | va3adi | va3adi@adis.ca | http://adis.ca
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IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario
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Subject: Attaack of the Undead mouse driver
From: David VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:08:10 -0500
X-Message-Number: 14
I sent this to the UI-View group already, but I thought I would share it
here as well.
I've been trying to get UI-view running mobile, but I have somewhat of an
unusual configuration. I run a powered USB repeater which is buried in the
car, to USB serial ports located back at my ammo-can unit which contains
the TNC, radio, and takes input from it's GPS.
The laptop is a Toshiba Libretto L-1, running XP pro. This laptop has no
legacy ports at all, and no floppy or CD drive. It's USB or firewire only.
I wasn't able to get this to work reliably, and was becoming VERY
frustrated. Sometimes it would work fine, other times I could connect to
the ports, but I would never see any data coming in from the TNC.
Even a loopback cable across two ports would not show any data, so the
problem had to be in the ports somehow.
People suggested that the problem was related to the Belkin serial adaptors
I was using, so I even went so far as to get an Edgeport/8 unit (eight
serial ports!), but had the same problem.
The Belkin serial ports worked reliably for me on other applications, so
initially I thought there was some problem with UI-View. This turned out
NOT to be the case.
After much churning and investigation, Ding Dong, the witch is dead!
XP was loading an MS Ballpoint mouse driver, apparently in reaction to the
data coming in from the TNC. I had set a boot option called
"/noserialmice" which is supposed to prevent this, but apparently that
doesn't work.
After some discussions with the edgeport folks, I found out there's an
option to set their serial ports to not participate in plug and play. That
is to say that the edgeport ports themselves are detected in PnP but any
devices connected to them are not.
BINGO! First time out of the gate, and several tries later, everything
works just fine. I can plug in the USB cable, launch UI-view, and off we
go. The GPS loopback also is working, so I'm a happy camper, with five
serial ports to spare!
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Subject: RE: APRSD
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@home.miller.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:47:49 -0700
X-Message-Number: 15
I'm curious why you think Debian is the worst Linux distro. Any particular
complaints? (And you must have never tried Slackware. =]) I switched some
time back from DEC Unix 4.0d on an Alpha 21064 to Debian on the same
hardware, and then to Debian on a Pentium III. I can't really say that
either one was better than the other. Debian's package management is
easier.
I suppose I should point out that I don't care much about GUIs. I use many
different *nix operating systems on a day to day basis, so I generally stick
with the least common denominator. My editor of choice, for example, is vi.
Never run into a *nix box without it.
At home, the only other Unix I'm running on a regular basis is OpenBSD.
It's my favorite for running network services - it's my firewall, DNS, and
DHCP server. Well, I've got a couple of Solaris workstations, but I don't
use those much. And a NeXTStation, but it mostly just looks cool. Oh, and
there's the SGI Irix box in the living room - I don't really like
SVR4-family *nix and the GUI is weird, but the package manager is nice.
But anyway, the bottom line is that Linux has AX.25 support in the kernel.
I'm not aware of any other OS, free or commercial, that's got integrated
AX.25. The only other well-supported choice is Windows, but I have yet to
see an IGATE program that's INTENDED to be run as a service in NT/2000/XP.
Yes, I've heard of people running UI-View with the cheesy service wrapper
from the resource kit, but that's a kludge and running GUI apps as services
makes me cringe. If you want to run the IGATE as a real network service,
aprsd is the way to go. Unless Xastir's got a gate-only mode I'm not aware
of.
And if you think the aprsd docs suck, you obviously haven't tried setting up
a user-mode soundmodem.
Anyway, I'll forward my aprsd.conf to you off-list. But I think I'd better
go put on my Nomex first before the flames start. =]
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@home.miller.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:58:23 -0700
X-Message-Number: 16
Beyond the ?help syntax, is there any standardized representation of things
like restaraunts? The query syntax in OpenTRAC is still mostly undefined,
but I'm planning on the ability to poll by various parameters, including
symbol type. With 'restaraunt' being one of the symbols, you could poll for
restaraunts when you start getting hungry and have a radar display of all
nearby restaraunts. No need to talk to individual digis and read through
lists of messages. And such objects could be stored elsewhere, like in a
spatial database on the 'net somewhere, to be looked up by IGATEs that
wouldn't have to have their own list of objects.
Scott
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