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Subject: Re: End of water pumps!
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:58:01 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 11

I think you are onto something... as far as the pump side.  But I am
probably going to want to attach the "pump" side to one of my more
efficinet alternators....

But Ill give one a look...

bob

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Subject: Re: GLOBAL VOICE ALERT settings
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:09:59 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 12

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Demetre Valaris wrote:

>Good idea to have a global VOICE ALERT setting but I think another subtone,
>such as 77 Hz (as Henk proposed) would be a better idea since many home
>stations use 88.5 HZ, at least in Europe, to access their local repeater and
>when these home stations switch onto APRS mode on VHF perhaps they will forget
>to switch off  their 88.5 HZ setting. As a result many might start
>transmitting APRS PACKETS with VOICE ALERT mode enabled from their home
>stations. This is something we do not want!

Another very good point.  ANd that is enough to convince me to leave it
alone.  100 HZ in USA and 136.5 in Europe.  I have learned that changing
somthing that involves hundreds of people makes the pain of the change
much less bearable than just living with what you have..

By the way, during the first HALF of my 1600 mile trip, somehow my CTCSS
was on 88 instead of 100!  NEver didi figure out when it got changed...
But now my PM is programmed with CTCSS100 and it will always come up that
way now...

Bob

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Subject: Real Water Power...  (Link to Photos)
From: "Syms, Robert" <R3Sr@pge.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:43:59 -0700
X-Message-Number: 13

Bob B.,

I was reading up on your wash pump idea. I wanted to share with you and
others on here what the inside of a real water power turbine looks like.
I was working south of Auburn, Ca. this last summer and took photos of
the wheel and enclosure for our Ralston Ridge Power House. Its amazing
the amount of power generated by this one wheel! cut and paste this URL
to your browser to see...  (yes that is yours truly next to the wheel!)
http://pages.ivillage.com/bbrydone/ralstonpowerhouse/id1.html

Robert Syms KO6ZL, San Ramon California.

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Subject: Re: End of water pumps!
From: Tad Burnett <tburnett@vermontel.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:03:29 -0400
X-Message-Number: 14

If you have trouble getting one to spin fast enough to produce 12 volts
maby two wired in series would do it...Assuming you use 12 DC
pump/motors...Bet a 32 volt pump would get up to 12 volts...
 
I also liked the car water pump idea or the bicycle wheel with blades 
added..
 
Tad N1QAG

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Subject: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Warren, Sam" <sam.warren@Vanderbilt.Edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:17:54 -0500
X-Message-Number: 15

I got one of these from Delorme last week.  The good news, it has
native NMEA output, is WAAS enabled, and gets a fix in seconds.  The
bad news, without a proper computer comport connection, it won't output
for more than 2-3 seconds.

I can jerk the serial cable from my laptop running ZOC, and plug it into
my D700.  I then can see the data in my position.  Then the unit
times out.

I have tried crossing RTS and CTS, along with DTR, DSR, and CD.  No
luck.

Delorme's response for my request for information,  "Thank you for
contacting Delorme Technical Support.  Unfortunately we cannot release
that proprietary information..."

Sam Warren
KC4EUN

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Subject: Re: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@opentrac.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:31:20 -0700
X-Message-Number: 16

Do you have an RS-232 blinking light thingy?  I think Radio Shack still
carries 'em.  Maybe it's software handshaking?

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Subject: Re: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:47:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 17

I think there's one pin you have to pull true.  Forget which one.  Just
looping it back isn't enough.

If you go to the web sites where they show you have to 'hack' the
tripmate, you can usually see how they did their 'cross connect'.

Mike

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Subject: Re: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@opentrac.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:04:57 -0700
X-Message-Number: 18

Why do they even bother crippling devices like that?  Is it a deliberate
design feature, or what?

I'd go do more research on the web, but there's a free George Thorogood
concert starting up just down the street, so I'm out of here.

Scott
N1VG

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Subject: RE: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Warren, Sam" <sam.warren@Vanderbilt.Edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:51:29 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19

I did a web search before my original post.  All the Tripmate references
I found for "hacks" reference the original Tripmate with Rockwell
sentences.  Byonics has an adapter for that model to convert the
sentences.

The model I have is brand new in June 2003.  I have refrained from
applying random voltage to the pins (so far).

The gps chipset is SiRF.  Very low power requirements.  The standard
cable is usb only.  The DB9 cable was an extra $xx.

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Subject: Re: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:51:59 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20

I believe in normal operation it will shut down the TripMate if the
laptop or computer does a suspend or powers down.  Since the
TripMate normally is battery powered, it makes sense.

Mike

>Why do they even bother crippling devices like that?  Is it a deliberate
>design feature, or what?

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Subject: WinAprs and PMapping 5.0
From: "John Thurston" <n0meq@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:34:30
X-Message-Number: 21

I have a registered version of WinAprs 2.7.2 and utilizing Precision 
Mapping Streets and Traveler.  PMap is using MapPro50.OCX, ver 5.00.00
WinAprs is loaded in the same directory.

I am able to pull PMap up within the WinAprs program but I cannot get a 
full screen but only half of the PMap. Is there a fix for this so that I 
can obtain a full screen?  I had no problems when I was utilizing the PMap 
3.0 version...

Thank You
John/N0MEQ

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Subject: RE: New Tripmate USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:39:37 -0400
X-Message-Number: 22

Are you sure it's 'TripMate'?  I went to DeLorme and only saw the 
new EarthMate.

Mike

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Subject: Re: WinAprs and PMapping 5.0
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@attbi.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:15:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 23

Unfortunately, you will only be able to get the "Square" map with PM 5.0 
and I am not sure if Mark and Keith will get it to be any better.. Some 
issues that they have not conquered as yet..

I utilize a dos map to fill the blank portion of the screen, as the PM5 
map will overlay the "dos" map that is underneath, :-) I use a 21" 
monitor here, and that empty portion of the screen drives me nuts...

Robbie,  wa9inf

John Thurston wrote:
>I have a registered version of WinAprs 2.7.2 and utilizing Precision
>Mapping Streets and Traveler.  PMap is using MapPro50.OCX, ver 5.00.00
>WinAprs is loaded in the same directory.
> 
>I am able to pull PMap up within the WinAprs program but I cannot get a
>full screen but only half of the PMap. Is there a fix for this so that I
>can obtain a full screen?  I had no problems when I was utilizing the PMap
>3.0 version...
> 
>Thank You
>John/N0MEQ

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Subject:  New EARTHMATE USB with DB9 Serial Cable
From: "Warren, Sam" <sam.warren@Vanderbilt.Edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:56:15 -0500
X-Message-Number: 24

Mike Yetsko called it right. The new gps from Delorme IS an Earthmate.
It's about 1/4 size of the Tripmate and has no batteries.  It gets its
power from the standard USB cable or from the cigarette lighter plug on
the optional DB9 cable.  Since Delorme will be making a cable for
different PDA's there HAS to be a way.  When connected to a serial port
with an ACTIVE comm program, either hard or soft flow control, the unit
will output.  Turn off the program, poof, it stops outputting.

If Delorme isn't going to offer a solution for sale, you might think
they would at least let you know how to "do it yourself".

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