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Subject: Re: virus attacks!
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 8:48:15
X-Message-Number: 9
>It is so very important to check your machine!
Check and remove. It's free.
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/codered.removal.tool.htl
m
Dick, KB7ZVA
APRSWest
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Subject: Re: PCSAT2 on-air and READING test.
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 09:49:39 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 10
>PCSAT2 will be outside (seeing the sky) Tuesday at 0800 and 0945 EDT for
>the mornings pass of PCsat. PCSAT2 will be transmitting its packets via
>PCsat ... to demonstrate satellite-to-satellite communications. East
>Coast Users are welcome to try the path of PCSAT-1,PCSAT2,PCSAT-1 for a
>triple satellite hop test.
It was good to see many of you participating in the PCSAT2 "reading"
test...;-) <wink>
We did get PCsat configured properly for the test, but of the 8 stations
we saw, only 1 had the correct path. To distinguish PCSAT2 from PCsat, we
include the "2" as part of the root call. This way we can still have all
the different SSID's for PCSAT2-1 for example. THus, the correct path for
PCSAT2 is via PCSAT2, not PCSAT-2. Tricky, huh...
Well, its raining again, so we had to bring PCSAT2 indoors.. for this next
pass. Sorry. We eont be able to do this test again until 2 weeks from
now.
Bob
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Subject: Re: virus attacks!
From: "Joseph C. Bender" <n8xre@benderhome.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:01:21 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 11
Jim said:
>The following IP's are sending virus out all over the internet!
>
*SNIP*
Jim, those and five million others. Code Red and Nimda are, much to my
and many other sysadmin's dismay, all too prevalent still. It will be a
fact of life until the last IIS enabled box below a certain patch level,
on the net, is shut down or patched.
You would have better luck notifying the owners of the IP in question.
--
Joseph C. Bender
n8xre at benderhome net
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Subject: Re: PCSAT2 on-air and READING test.
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 10:10:18 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 12
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Will Owens asked:
>Which stations did you see?
KA2UPW, N3ZLL,WA1KAT,W2KQ,N9YUK,W3ADO first pass
AK4KO-2,K5VAS-1,VE3FFR, N9YUK-12,N4ZQ,N0RQ,VE3TKB,VE3DOH, 2nd pass.
But on the second pass, I could not get logged in to do the settings on
PCsat(1) and PCSAT2 was indoors because of rain. I think a previous
command op somnewhere had tried to loggon and this timed out the password
generator and it just ignored me...
Sorry...
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Subject: Re: virus attacks!
From: "Dakota Summerhawk" <dakotas@dotorg.org>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 08:10:47 -0600
X-Message-Number: 13
AVG also puts out a FREE virus scan that I use and it gaught the last wave.
Nice thing is they even go so far as to update it everytwo weeks and the
program downloads it on auto pilot if you want it to and installs the new
update!
Dakota
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Subject: Re: virus attacks!
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:15:10 -0700
X-Message-Number: 14
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph C. Bender" <n8xre@benderhome.net>
To: <spider@rivcom.net>
Cc: <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [aprssig] virus attacks!
>Jim said:
>>The following IP's are sending virus out all over the internet!
>>
>*SNIP*
>
>Jim, those and five million others. Code Red and Nimda are, much to my
>and many other sysadmin's dismay, all too prevalent still. It will be a
>fact of life until the last IIS enabled box below a certain patch level,
>on the net, is shut down or patched.
>
>You would have better luck notifying the owners of the IP in question.
As soon as someone can tell me who it is! I've made contact with the one
that I could find info on.
Their providers can shut them down as well until the problem is fixed.
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: Re: APRS Internet System Design Philosophy
From: "Gregg G. Wonderly" <gregg@skymaster.cytetech.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:16:32 -0500
X-Message-Number: 15
>Didn't I read somewhere that Microsoft had or was about to drop support
>for Java?
Microsoft continues to provide their Java VM for download from their site.
However, they have stopped development because of the lawsuit that found
them guilty of violating their license with Sun. They were creating
incompatible changes in the language, and still calling it Java. The
license does not allow this.
<soapbox>
Rather than participate in a community effort, microsoft wants to go it
alone so that they can maintain their monopoly position. They could have
worked with Sun and the rest of the Java Community (www.jcp.org) to
recommend changes to the language and let the community decide what was
good/bad.
Instead, they decided they knew better, and took their work and renamed it
C# (C-sharp, or C-flat if you don't appreciate their work :-). They tool
the java virtual machine that they had, and now call it the CLR (common
language runtime). They have changed VB to VB.net and made it generate CLR
byte codes, instead of the old VB code. All of their .net compilers are
now tuned to generate code into this environment so that they get language
interworking without having to have COM to do that.
Microsoft (as have others), has seen the benefits that the Java platform
provides. They stole a large portion of the technologies through
exploitation of their license agreement.
Now, what is left to be seen is if they can get their act together about
real development tools and productivity that will allow their platform to
win.
An interesting thing happened yesterday. I was looking for information on
microsofts website about how to stop windows from creating default routes
of higher priority on the second and subsequent network interface that is
brought up.
I found a link that said "Try VB.net studio free for three hours". I just
had to laugh. How can they imagine that a person could make a real
judgement of the usability of their software IDE and the runtime platform
in just 3 hours? It is this lack of insight into the software development
community at large that makes be think things are gonna be rough for the
.net platform.
Many IT shops have started putting up linux servers for file sharing,
printer sharing and web serving because the cost is so much less, and the
stability is there. These places are starting to wonder about single OS
solutions that they have to invest many man hours in, and then have to turn
around and change everything (VB to VB.net is not smooth I understand) to
stay on that platform. So, I would guess that there will be some shops that
move away from microsoft, and in particular away from .NET because of the
economy, as well as their realization of the true level of technology that
MS is at.
</soapbox>
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gregg@cytetech.com (Cyte Technologies Inc)
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Subject: Re: virus attacks!
From: "stanzepa@earthlink.net" <stanzepa@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 11:26:21 -0400
X-Message-Number: 16
This subject is off-topic. Please take this discussion off the list.
Thank-you for your cooperation,
Stan, WA1LOU, APRSSIG administrator
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Subject: Re: Air emergency?
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:30:21 -0000
X-Message-Number: 17
I agree. It's the same as a Mayday call. I think I'm going to put an
'excercise emergency' flag in OpenTRAC so people can test their setups and
simulate emergency calls... clients ought to react to it only if they've
been set for excercise operation, and then it should be clear that it's an
excercise.
Scott
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Subject: Re: Air emergency?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 12:06:23 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 18
On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI wrote:
>I agree. It's the same as a Mayday call. I think I'm going to put an
>'excercise emergency' flag in OpenTRAC so people can test their setups and
>simulate emergency calls...
The D7/700's have 7 position comment flags
Off duty
enroute
returning
committed
special <aprsdos displays ICON as yellow
priority <aprsdos displays ICON as red and centers map on it
emergency <APRSdos displays ICON as BRIGHT red, and centers map and
starts beeping until turned off.
The best way to "test" a system is to set PRIORITY and verify that the
response is as expecetd. Then you can trust that the Emergency will be
the same... (plus the Beeps). The similarity between priority and
emergency was partly so that you could see the response without haiving to
"test" it...
Bob
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