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Subject: Re: Garmin GPS/FRS RINO
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:48:31 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 20
RINO's response to POLLS:
I just noticed a small note in the RINO docs:
"polling only recognizes the first 4 letters of the MY-ID name... if two
or more RINO's have matching letters, they may both respond"...
Now, if everyone used the convention of naming their RINO as APRS-call
then a single poll could initiate every "APRS" mobile rino in range.
BUT what is not clear is whether there is any randomness to the response
as there is in APRS. If there is no randomness, then all you get is a
mess. But anyone with a RINO could test this. Just send out polls to
your RINO and observe when it responds..
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
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Subject: Re: Unproto Path
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:09:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 21
hasan schiers wrote:
>We do it slightly differently (and since we adjoin your coverage area), but
>what you suggest will still work in Iowa and contiguous MN,MO,NE.
We cover into the very far SE corner of Mo and very NE corner of Ak....
>However:
>
>This is the first time I've seen anyone recommend RELAY in a home station
>unproto path. I seem to remember that this was strongly discouraged.
Believe me I rather not see anyone use Relay accept those that drive
car, truck, or whatever... But you can always count someone reaching a
Digipeater directly, so you use the buddy system (Your neighbor who uses
APRS) to help you get into the vast network weather here or across the
nation. Wants he knows the local Relay operator he can switch to a
unproto like this Digi,wide2-2 or 3-3 his choice. About every APRS
program available is default to Relay,Wide accept APRSDos which defaults
to a single Wide path. Now we have started scrapping Wide alias out of
some of Digipeaters around... We did this in Dayton this year, it cut
the traffic down some.. Will we re-add Wide at a later date probably
not... Every other digipeater will answer to Wide eventually thus those
that still want to use Wide can...
>>From central Iowa to Minneapolis, Kansas City, Omaha, and Sioux City the
>same paths suggested work perfectly now (there is one more digi to convert,
>but let's keep it simple)
>
>Mobiles: Relay, Wide2-2
Eventually we will probably follow what the NWAPRS group did, Mobiles
will beacon every 10 minutes with that path. Were not doing that now,
but mobile ops shouldn't beacon out no more than every 2 minutes.. I
would rather see 3 or more.
>Home: Wide3-3 or Wide, Wide2-2
>
>(Do not put RELAY in your unproto if you are a home station)
>
>(Not that it won't work, it will...but it will also fire off just about
>every digi and home owner in the local RF world, thus producing MANY
>non-useful packets.)
We don't all live in the perfect network where your guaranteed to be
100% into the network from the start. Believe me I would rather not see
non-productive packets in the network, and everyone and their
brother/sister set up as a Relay station that's non-productive also.. I
won't address that issue, because some believe Relay is God... Please
don't take me the wrong way!!!! I'm not a APRS Cop Nor do I want to be,
that can be counter productive also.
--
73, James, K9APR Webmaster Webmaster
Chairman \ Coordinator Indiana Repeater Council Henry Co.
Amateur Radio Club
Tri-State APRS Working Group http://www.ircinc.org
http://www.qsl.net/hcara
http://www.tawg.org
mailto:k9apr@tawg.org
Run a APRS Website? Why not join the APRS Webring. http://www.tawg.org/join.htm
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Subject: Unproto path Spell Check
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:48:16 -0500
X-Message-Number: 22
In the last e-mail they're was a few spelling mistakes One "Can" should
have been "Can't".. And the next one is a real duh!!!! "AK" should have
been "AR".. Sorry for the slight oversight, been a offal long day today...
--
73, James, K9APR Webmaster Webmaster
Chairman \ Coordinator Indiana Repeater Council Henry Co.
Amateur Radio Club
Tri-State APRS Working Group http://www.ircinc.org
http://www.qsl.net/hcara
http://www.tawg.org
mailto:k9apr@tawg.org
Run a APRS Website? Why not join the APRS Webring. http://www.tawg.org/join.htm
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Subject: Re: Unproto Path
From: "Dave Thege" <dthege@ncfcomm.com>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 19:27:37 -0500
X-Message-Number: 23
Alternatively you could also use the call of the nearest DIGI then wide,
etc. I use my DIGI call then wide, wide. It works most of the time and I
seem to get into Omaha & Lincoln fairly regular. (Nebraska that is.)
Dave N0XBN
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