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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Thursday, May 15, 2003.
1. Re: tm733
2. AVR Sprint (fwd)
3. th7d 9600
4. Re: AVR Sprint (fwd)
5. Path inquiry
6. Re: Path inquiry
7. RE: Path inquiry
8. Re: Path inquiry
9. Re: Path inquiry
10. RE: Path inquiry
11. Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
12. Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
13. Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
14. Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
15. Repeater Controller
16. Re: th7d 9600
17. Cable Modems on HAM bands?
18. Re: Repeater Controller
19. Re: th7d 9600
20. Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
21. Re: Repeater Controller
22. APRS Split Screen Display
23. Re: Repeater Controller
24. AGWPE
25. Re: AGWPE
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Subject: Re: tm733
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 07:39:29 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1
Wes Johnston wrote:
>Any one know how to get the tm733 into 9600 baud packet mode?
Have you tried kicking it? :)
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: AVR Sprint (fwd)
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:37:22 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 2
PIC PRocessors:
We were going to go with the AVR Sprint microcontroller but my colleague
reports: Any comments? Bob
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Bob: Talked to AVR sprint and it is a very small company; the president is
to call me back and they have one sales person according to the secretary.
Makes me a little wary.
Vince
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Subject: th7d 9600
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:20:21 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3
Ok, I've been playing... I've got a spirit 2 9600 baud TNC recieving packets
from a kenwood d7.
Lessons learned.....
1. TXd for the kenwood cold start TXD should be 200mS
2. TXd for mic-e mode, the minimum of 100ms (what granularity!)
3. with XMITOK does not inhibit TX on the spirit 2 when it's in KISS mode.
other lessons learned this week....
IC281 takes 150mS to come on the air. 140ms works occasionaly, 150ms is
100%.
Wes
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Subject: Re: AVR Sprint (fwd)
From: David VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:52:03 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4
At 08:37 AM 5/15/2003 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>PIC PRocessors:
>
>We were going to go with the AVR Sprint microcontroller but my colleague
>reports: Any comments? Bob
There's also Dontronics Simm sticks. Most of these are "one man shows".
What's the concern?
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Subject: Path inquiry
From: Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@amsat.org>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:16:24 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5
FOlks:
I'm about to set up a D7 for a friend who will be flying to Dayton. As
pilot in command, he has authorized APRS operations in the aircraft.
I normally set a path of RELAY, WIDE 3-3. Clearly this is inappropriate
for an aircraft at 8500 feet. I'm thinking Wide 2-2 or maybe just Wide.
Obviously relay isn't needed, but how many wides?
Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks & 73,
jim
wb4gcs@amsat.org
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Subject: Re: Path inquiry
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:45:27 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 6
At that altitude, only ONE WIDE (if any).
Anythig else will cause multiple dupes over 3 states...
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
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Subject: RE: Path inquiry
From: "Cap Pennell" <cap@cruzio.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:59:29 -0700
X-Message-Number: 7
One WIDE sent once every 2 or 3 minutes is plenty from an aircraft! Don't
use RELAY while airborne (or at the Hamvention). All the other APRSers will
benefit from your consideration. Of course, as considerate operators, we
must all do our part to fight "reduced throughput" (from packet collisions)
due to our limited channel capacity on 144.390Mhz.
Hope this helps.
73, Cap KE6AFE
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Subject: Re: Path inquiry
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:17:14 EDT
X-Message-Number: 8
In a message dated 5/15/2003 9:20:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
wb4gcs@amsat.org writes:
>I normally set a path of RELAY, WIDE 3-3. Clearly this is inappropriate
>for an aircraft at 8500 feet. I'm thinking Wide 2-2 or maybe just Wide.
>Obviously relay isn't needed, but how many wides?
How about no path at all...
At that altitude you should be heard over hundreds of miles directly.
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf @ aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: Re: Path inquiry
From: Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@amsat.org>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:50:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
Well, that's what I decided to do.
Thanks.
Jim
Bob Bruninga wrote:
>At that altitude, only ONE WIDE (if any).
>Anythig else will cause multiple dupes over 3 states...
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Subject: RE: Path inquiry
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:50:48 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10
I normally use WIDE2-2 when flying north (to Iowa), east (to Atlanta or
Florida), or west (to Denver or Las Vegas) from the DFW area. No path
will cause many lost packets as many IGates are set up (as they should
be) to hear the nearest WIDE digi, not distant low power stations. Some
areas are well covered with digis/IGates. Others are not. Beaconing
every five minutes (airplanes flying cross-country generally fly a
straight line so any faster is a waste) with WIDE2-2 has appeared to
give me solid coverage into APRS-IS without causing excessive
collisions.
BTW, I normally put a status text of "Voice 446.0" and then monitor 446
simplex for voice QSO's. When I am not busy with air traffic control,
this can be a fun way to pass the time. I have made a number of voice
contacts on 446 because the other operator saw my status message.
Have fun.
73,
Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net
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Subject: Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
From: "Clayon H. Owen" <aa3jy@winlink.org>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:9:3
X-Message-Number: 11
Ok..Bruninga..will be look'n for you at the 'Square Route Rally'..I see
your one of the quest speakers. Gee..I wonder what you'll be talk'n about..
:)
Clay AA3JY
BMW MOA
Mac-Pac
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Subject: Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:36:28 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 12
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Clayon H. Owen wrote:
>Ok..Bruninga..will be look'n for you at the 'Square Route Rally'..I see
>your one of the quest speakers. Gee..I wonder what you'll be talk'n about..
>:)
Do you have some APRS stuff you can bring for show and tell?
Do you have a bike outfitted?
Bring what ever you got, since all I'll have is my HT and a mobile rig
but that's not what they came to see..
BOb
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Subject: Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:53:25 -0400
X-Message-Number: 13
You know, I appologize if this has been covered already...
But isn't BMW one of the companies (the automobile branch anyway) that is
voiding warrantees if you have any HAM equipment installed in the vehicle?
And what with ABS braking ( one of the major 'justifications' for the auto
bans) now showing up on motorcycles, I just wondered if anyone has looked
into the issue of HAM equipment on the bike?
Hey, I'm not against it! I have a setup on my Gold Wing!!
Mike
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Subject: Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
From: "Julian White" <julian@privateasylum.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 22:06:34 +0200
X-Message-Number: 14
Hello Clayon.
This may be a bit late but I hope it helps
I have a setup APRS on a Honda TransAlp which is working very well for me.
My setup has several configurations.
Ill describe them all in brief here.
1. basic config includes Yaesu ft23r Magellan gps315 and tiny track2
2. More advanced config I use for everyday use is Kenwood thd7g, Magellan
gps315/or my fastrax homebrew gps.
3. Finally, the most advanced config includes Kenwood thd7 coupled to Palm
M515 running palmaprs w magellan gps315 or fastrax homebrew gps.
I have included a small 12v gel cell battery behind one of the panels on the
TransAlp to power the thd7 and gps. This battery is charged with a flex 5
solar panel which is mounted to my top box permanently. The gps and Thd7
when in config 2 or 3 are usually in my tank bag where I can have easy
access once stopped. When using the palm with palm aprs, the palm is placed
in my tank bags clear map holder compartment so that I can see stations in
relation to me at a glance. I plan to make a mount for the palm on the
handle bars in the near future. When using config 1 the yaesu ft23r, gps
and tt2 are in a small camera bag that I just toss into one of the pannier
cases.
I hope this helps answer some of your questions. If you have more questions
please feel free to ask.
Julian
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