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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Wednesday, May 07, 2003.

1. FW: WinAPRS 2.7.0 released TIGER SUPPROT
2. Re: Voice Alert
3. Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
4. Re: WAS: KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
5. Re: Tiger map files question
6. Info on the Zenith Cruisepad
7. Re: PCSAT query?

8. 58FCP connector
9. Re: PCSAT query?
10. Re: WAS: KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
11. Another minor 270 bug?
12. KCAPRS Site returns...
13. 270 is UNSTABLE
14. Re: WAS: KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
15. MIC-e repeater made easy
16. Re: 270 is UNSTABLE
17. Re: 270 is UNSTABLE
18. Re: 270 is UNSTABLE
19. WinAPRS 2.7.1
20. 271....
21. Re: 270 is UNSTABLE
22. Re: Another minor 270 bug?
23. Re: 271....
24. Re: Another minor 270 bug?

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Subject: FW: WinAPRS 2.7.0 released TIGER SUPPROT
From: "Ray McKnight" <shortsheep@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 01:15:44 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Mark, I know you guys are very busy, and I speak for us all in 
congratulating you and Keith for the release of 2.7.

But I am a little confused, and would like to ask a question 
that might show my ignorance, but maybe its just a lack of
documentation, or documentation yet to be developed/released.

You originally said that 2.7 would allow TIGER maps to be shared or
imported/exported between WinAPRS and programs like ARCView that
provide the ability to edit and customize .SHP files.  Since
2.7 specifies that we download the ASCII version of the TIGER data,
what is needed to complete the integration of ARCView's capabilities
into the customization of files used by WinAPRS?  Can ARCView
load and manipulate the ASCII versions of TIGER data directly, or
is there a conversion that needs to be done?  As an example, I can
easily download the .SHP versions of the same data, but once I've
customized my maps in ARCView, I guess I need to export them as an 
ASCII file for WinAPRS to use them?

I know there's a lot more still on the way, so maybe full integration
of .SHP files directly in WinAPRS is the next level?  

The documentation is rather sketchy about this, and maybe you haven't
had time to work on that in the frenzy to prepare for Dayton.

If this has already been answered I apologize.

73's
Ray - WB3ABN
Kingston, WA

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Subject: Re: Voice Alert
From: "Bud Talbot" <kb9wvg@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 5:52:21
X-Message-Number: 2

I run voice alert on my D7 and advertise it in the status text but have 
never had anyone contact me using it. I think it is a great idea (and 
simple). Hopefully, it may find some use at Dayton (I'll be there!).

73 de Bud
KB9WVG
http://home.houston.rr.com/kb9wvg

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Subject: Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
From: Tom Weeden <wj9h@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 06:25:21 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3

I'm all for 802.11-type speeds and better APRS network connectivity, except 
for the aforementioned "hooligans" already in place on 2.4 GHz...howza bout 
an 802.11b transverter for 1.2 GHz?  Or...I'm also intrigued by the 
mysterious Icom D-Star system which *looks* like it would fit the bill, but 
details are lacking.  If someone finds a D-Star demo/seminar at Dayton, 
please fill us non-attenders in.

--Tom Weeden
   Amateur Radio WJ9H
   Madison, Wisconsin
   www.qsl.net/wj9h

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Subject: Re: WAS: KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
From: "Gregg G. Wonderly" <gregg@skymaster.cytetech.com>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:10:40 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4

>I'm all for 802.11-type speeds and better APRS network connectivity, except
>for the aforementioned "hooligans" already in place on 2.4 GHz...howza bout 
>an 802.11b transverter for 1.2 GHz?  Or...I'm also intrigued by the 
>mysterious Icom D-Star system which *looks* like it would fit the bill, but 
>details are lacking.  If someone finds a D-Star demo/seminar at Dayton, 
>please fill us non-attenders in.

The biggest problem with 802.11b and 802.11a is that it is spreadspectrum 
technology.  Current part-97 reg state that you have to turn it off it is 
interfering with another mode.  So, for instance, in Tulsa OK, we have 2.4ghz 
ATV transmitters operating VSB.  You could not operate 802.11a or 802.11b 
equipment, legally (part-97 or part-15), in the city, anywhere that it 
interferes with such operations.  We are nice, and try to work with everyone 
to resolve the problems.  But, you might find someone in your town who wants 
to own these bands, and could put up VSB, FM-digital or other equipment on 
those bands.

802.11[ab] is a great boon to networking, but the current FCC regs really make 
it impossible to use them for anything that you depend on working...

-----
gregg@cytetech.com  (Cyte Technologies Inc)

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Subject: Re: Tiger map files question
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:14:53 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5

To Chris and the SIG

Chris asked me this question privately but I think its a good question.

If WinAPRS 2.7.0 does not find the TIGER folder, then it behaves the 
same as it always has and does not utilize anymore memory.  The extra 
code portion is about 50K but if the TIGER maps are not found, it 
does NOT allocate any memory and does NOT try to use the Tiger data.

A machine with 96 megs of memory will probably handle a few counties, 
just not lots.

Mark

>Will it still be usable with the old APRS maps and PM for example with only
>96megs of memory and a 2gig processor?  I am not going to rush out and buy
>more memory.
>
>TNX,
>Chris
>KB8UIH

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msproul@jove.rutgers.edu                 |
Manager - Engineering Computing Services | 732-445-3121
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Eng D111                                 |
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Subject: Re: PCSAT query?
From: Ken Collins <g4fip@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:42:33 +0000
X-Message-Number: 7

In article <LYR26201-131416-2003.05.05-08.43.10--g4fip#btinternet.com@li
sts.tapr.org>, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu> writes
>Unfortuantely it looks like whoever is running the APRSdata engine in
>your area has either his clock or date in his PC off.  THus the wrong
>predictions...

Here is another sample which I collected this morning. The only reason I
am putting it out to the list is in the hope that it will be seen by the
sysop of the APRSdata server. The fact that it is also sending voice
alerts to two stations in the 7 call area would indicate that it is
located on the Western side of the US. With a constant one hour
discrepancy it is probably due to the PC time not being correct;_

2003-May-07 03:29:53 (UTC)
03:29:53R PCSAT>APRDA1,TCPIP,MB7UAA* Port=1 <UI C Len=98>:
_070429z6533.85S\01231.72ES112/999/145.828+1/145.828-1/R=13113/mode-V

2003-May-07 04:22:45 (UTC)
04:22:45R PCSAT>APRDA1,TCPIP,MB7UAA* Port=1 <UI C Len=98>:
*070522z6702.20N\15753.89WS088/999/ELEV = 02/145.828+4/R=03116/mode-V

2003-May-07 06:09:42 (UTC)
06:09:41R PCSAT>APRDA1,TCPIP,MB7UAA* Port=1 <UI C Len=98>:
*070709z5823.46N\14004.72WS132/999/145.828-4/145.828+4/R=01852/mode-V

2003-May-07 06:12:47 (UTC)
06:12:47R PCSAT>APRS,TCPIP,MB7UAA* Port=1 <UI C Len=43>:
:KC7DBA-7 :%[54]

2003-May-07 06:14:40 (UTC)
06:14:39R PCSAT>APRDA1,TCPIP,MB7UAA* Port=1 <UI C Len=98>:
*070714z4427.04N\12225.47WS149/999/145.828+1/145.828-1/R=00928/mode-V

The tracking data is correct, it is just being sent one hour early.  :-)

-- 
Ken Collins - G4FIP
E-mail:- g4fip@btinternet.com
http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fip

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Subject: 58FCP connector
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 10:59:47 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8

Just a quick dumb question. A 58FCP connector is the same as a PL259
plug, except assembly is different, right?

Thanks a bunch and 73,
--Alex KR1ST

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Subject: Re: PCSAT query?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:50:57 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 9

On Wed, 7 May 2003, Ken Collins wrote:

>>Unfortuantely it looks like whoever is running the APRSdata engine in
>>your area has either his clock or date in his PC off.
>
>Here is another sample which I collected this morning. The only reason I
>am putting it out to the list is in the hope that it will be seen by the
>sysop of the APRSdata server.

He should be easy to find.  Just scan for any station sending to
the AX.25 TOCALL of APRSDA1.  All other packets from that station will
have the actual owner's callsign but still use the same TOCALL.  Of
course, your scan will find EVERYONE that is currently on the air with
APRSdata, but knowing the list of them should make it easy to figure out.

Bob
..

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