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Subject: Re: More bugs?
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:18:03 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10
Here we go again.
I downloaded the version from the web site myself, installed it and
opened BOTH a TIGER map and a Prec Mapping Map window and oppend
third.aprs.net and it works fine.
Please let me know the following
what EXACT server did you connect to, name and PORT number
which method did you use (aprserv.txt) or the PORT LIST method
Let me know this stuff and I will try it out.
Mark
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Subject: Re: Tiger map files question
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:20:54 -0400
X-Message-Number: 11
Jacob
I see your issue, the NEW MAP TIGER is the old method of connecting
to the tiger map image server.
There is another command, NEW TIGER MAP that brings up the new stuff,
I will change that so its not confusing.
When you have the maps correct in the "Tiger" folder, they will come
up automatically. You have to UNZIP the files first.
Mark
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Subject: Re: Tiger map files question
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:23:30 -0400
X-Message-Number: 12
Jim
Thanks for the comments, no I dont think it has been rushed, I have
been working very hard and long to get the tiger maps working. The
issues that are being mentioned I cannot duplicate. I will do my
best to address each issue if people will give me enough to work on.
The TCP/IP stuff has not been touched so there should not be any
problems.
ONE VERY IMPORTANT NOTE. The new Tiger Map feature is VERY MEMORY HUNGRY.
Mark
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Subject: Re: Bug Report
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:50:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 13
At 6:11 AM -0700 5/6/03, Spider wrote:
>I am curious, does WinAPRS have it's own Sig for bug reports?
>
>Jim, WA6OFT
Bug reports are either sent to me directly or to the Sig, I prefer if
you send me directly with as much detail as you can. The best is if
you can genereate a log file that re-produces the problem.
Mark
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Subject: Re: WAS: KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
From: "Joseph C. Bender" <n8xre@benderhome.net>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:32:17 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 14
Bob Bruninga said:
>On Mon, 5 May 2003, Jim Duncan wrote:
>
>>I submit that amateur radio is rapidly losing (if it hasn't already!)
>>it's technical edge on the market. It's up to US (the movers and
>>shakers of ham radio) to develop this APRS technology and return our
>>focus to doing what we do ON THE AIR and NOT relying upon the internet
>>to do it for us!
>
>I think the best use of our time and resources and knowledge is to take
>the ball of 802.11 and run with it. Use our RF knowledge to make 802.11
>work for us using all off the shelf stuff.
This is something that I'd love to see and hack on. However, I think
802.11 in an "off the shelf stuff" implementation would be a disaster
due to the large amount of consumer gear already in the market. Anyone
acting in a non-ham capacity doesn't have to abide by part 97. We
(acting as hams) do. That means no WEP (joke as it may be), no IPSEC,
and everything free and clear.
Now, I'm not saying these APs would be linked to the Internet, but
wardrivers would be trying, just to see what's on the other side.
Keeping the hooligans out would be a full time job in some areas. At
least with the obscurity of AX.25, that's a bit easier. It's no defense
of AX.25, don't get me wrong, but managing security is a major part of any
new networking endeavour these days.
>In one sense we could engineer something better for us, but in the other
>sense, the availablility of dirt-cheap technology has always been the
>most significant driving factor in Amateur Radio Development. We take
>something that "is" and turn it into somehing that does something for us
>very well.
Well, I'd think that taking existing standards and protocols and adapting
it to ham-band use would be a better idea. 802.11b-like access technology
on 1.2 GHz, perhaps? AX.25 is an offshoot of X.25, could we create
A802.11b as well? I would like to see a return of TCP/IP and ampr.org to
amateur digital work, perhaps next-generation APRS packets could be UDP
frames on IP-type links.
>I think HAMS could put up free 802.11 access points with good antennas
>and the right software that could provide a potent resource in publioc
>service support! That's what we do!
Again, tell us how to get around Part 97 with it, and how to deal with
non-hams, and I for one would be willing to pitch in and help.
Joseph C. Bender
n8xre at benderhome net
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Subject: Re: May 4th Tornado Outbreak
From: Curt Mills <hacker@tc.fluke.com>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 15
On Mon, 5 May 2003, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>On Mon, 5 May 2003, dale huguley wrote:
>
>>And the xastir snapshot of the logfile at:
>>http://wxsvr.net/tmp/outbreak.png
>>
>>The counties are not lit up (it would be almost every county in some
>>states!)
>
>Investigating. Further discussion moved to Xastir list.
Fixed last night and committed to CVS. What this means: All users now
have it if they want it. No new software release is required. Users type
"cvs update", recompile/reinstall the binary, and run the new code. "cvs"
fetches just the _changes_ to the source code and automatically applies
them. The patch process takes seconds, recompile/reinstall a few more
seconds, and the new version is ready to run. I would have said, "Try that
with Windows!", but now you can: Xastir runs on Windows (if Cygwin is
installed).
The problem turned out to be a daylight savings time bug in some time
conversion code. We were expiring the weather alerts one hour before we
should have. At least we were right half of every year...
Xastir: http://www.xastir.org
Free for the taking. We don't do releases once a year. We don't do
releases every month. We do development releases every two weeks, and for
many users that's not even enough: To get the latest features at any time,
day or night, use the Xastir CVS version. If a developer submitted code
three seconds ago, you can get it and be running it in two minutes flat.
How's that for fast turn-around time?
Did I mention it's free?
Obligatory Disclaimer: The Windows installation is not particulary
friendly yet. If you're an appliance user, you may want to stick with a
commercial APRS client for Windows. For Unix/Linux/MacOSX though, it's
quite another matter. I wouldn't recommend anything else.
--
Curt Mills, WE7U hacker_NO_SPAM_@tc.fluke.com
Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math!"
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates!" -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: Tiger map files question
From: "Ken Patterson" <kenp@etex.net>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 16:38:11 -0000
X-Message-Number: 16
Mark,
You stated that "The new Tiger Map feature is VERY MEMORY HUNGRY".
Would you post here what is expected of our computers, in terms of minimum
and recommended system requirements?
de Ken,
N5EQT
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Subject: NWS Watches / Warnings on APRS+SA
From: "PVFD Station 2" <pvfdst2@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:43:35 -0500
X-Message-Number: 17
I was curious how NWS watches and warnings are gated to RF. I use APRS+SA
and have seen these watches and warnings gated to RF for other areas just
never mine. I am figuring that it is a task an Igate would perform but I
can't seem to find it looking around my APRS+SA program. Any info would be
appreciated...
Thanks,
Aaron Maxwell - KD5SMN
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Subject: Re: NWS Watches / Warnings on APRS+SA
From: "Kurt O. Jauss" <kf6hjo@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:25:42 -0700
X-Message-Number: 18
Oh teacher; pick me! Pick me! :-D
I just asked this question several months ago.
In APRS+ SETUP LISTS GATE BY CALLSIGN.
Use the 3 letter abbreviation for the warning area you want to cover.
I am the local IGATE in Central California So I have placed
HNX* Hanford area
STO* Stocton area
MTR* Monterey area
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Subject: Re: NWS Watches / Warnings on APRS+SA
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 17:37:01 -0000
X-Message-Number: 19
Is there any coordination of gate areas? I cover San Luis Obispo and Santa
Barbara counties with my IGATE - what would I need to do to start gating NMS
messages?
Scott
N1VG
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