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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Tuesday, May 06, 2003.

1. To quote Steve Martin, "I forgot"
2. Re: EMERGENCY BEACON EA8EE/MM(?)
3. Re: EMERGENCY BEACON EA8EE/MM(?)
4. RE: Appalachain Trail
5. Bug Report
6. Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
7. Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
8. Re: WAPRS 270 bug report.
9. Re: Bug Report
10. Re: More bugs?
11. Re: Tiger map files question
12. Re: Tiger map files question
13. Re: Bug Report
14. Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
15. Re: May 4th Tornado Outbreak
16. Re: Tiger map files question
17. NWS Watches / Warnings on APRS+SA
18. Re: NWS Watches / Warnings on APRS+SA
19. Re: NWS Watches / Warnings on APRS+SA
20. Re: Tiger map files question
21. Cheap GPS solutions
22. Voice Alert
23. Re: Voice Alert
24. Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
25. Another question from old newbie
26. Re: Another question from old newbie
27. Need help w/ a TNC and WinAPRS
28. RE: Need help w/ a TNC and WinAPRS
29. GPS Antenna
30. Re: Another question from old newbie

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Subject: To quote Steve Martin, "I forgot"
From: "Howard Coleman" <n6vdv@onemain.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 22:48:11 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello
I was very active in APRS up until about two years ago under the call W6HQA.
My WinAPRS  was connected to a Peet Brothers weather station supplying the
NWS in Oxnard, California the only information from my area.  W6HQA was my
father's call and is now being used as the club call for the Grover Beach
EOC Club and the weather station is now reporting data via APRS from the
Pismo Beach area of central California.  When the home was sold and the RV
purchased, I kind of kept APRS in the back of my mind as one of the things
to do again someday.  Someday again has arrived and I'm rather embarrassed
to admit that I've forgotten just about everything.

My goal is to establish a tracker for when I am on the road and a base unit
when I find a place to sit still for a while.  I do have the KPC3+, not sure
which version.  Problem is, in the move, I've misplaced the manual, needed
to help me with the settings and have not been able to locate a copy.  I
would like to get WinAPRS up and running and then tackle the tracker.  I
have a pair of modified commercial rigs that put out between 12 and 15 watts
that worked fine two years ago and assume they still do, at least until
Murphy proves me wrong.

If someone could assist and older newbie in setting up the TNC, I would
appreciate it.   Rather than take up bandwidth on the sig, I can be reached
at the address listed below.

73
Howard Coleman N6VDV
n6vdv@n6vdv.org

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Subject: Re: EMERGENCY BEACON EA8EE/MM(?)
From: "Joe Della Barba" <joe@dellabarba.com>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 05:24:20 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

EA8EE seems to be back on dry land now.

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Subject: Re: EMERGENCY BEACON EA8EE/MM(?)
From: Rich Garcia <k4gps@bellsouth.net>
Date: 06 May 2003 08:08:22 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Yes on Dry Land and still sending an emergency...

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Subject: RE: Appalachain Trail
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:26:56 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

On Mon, 5 May 2003, Steve Dimse wrote:

>The AT passes near quite a few towns along the way, where thru-hikers receive
>provisioning packages, and can make phone calls to loved-one to get word out
>they are still alive.
>
>Is this effort worth the time and money it would cost?

I agree that I doubt the card reader approach or any other approach that
requires the hiker to either carry or prepare in advance is viable.  It
has been amusing to watch the SIG commments...  But such approaches on the
trail are just the kind of encroaching technology that many abhor.

Also, they all require some kind of investment to develop.

That's why my approach was just  placing a PC at the same place where you
currently find paper logbooks.  Software is 90% done, infrastructure is in
place.  There is no need for a continuum of stations.  Even if only one is
placed, it provides a measure of benefit in its area...  So it is
incremental too...

So Steve is right.  My original ideas of little boxes along the trail was
fun to design and think about as an engineering challenge, but completely
impractical from the "need" and the resources available.  But still, I'm
gonna put up the laptop at the two sites I have found (both
currently have logbooks and a person that maintains them).  But now all I
need is TIME! argh.

Bob

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Subject: Bug Report
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@attbi.com>
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 07:46:03 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5

Hi,

I set up waprs270 with tcp/ip running with a Tiger map of the Chicago area
and USWXRadar. This was at 10:00 PM

This morning the only thing still running was USWXRadar.. No errors or
indication of why 270 shut down and left the computer ok...

Anyone else have this happen to them?

Robbie,  wa9inf

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Subject: Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 6

On Mon, 5 May 2003, Jim Duncan wrote:

>As evidence, I submit the fact that Bob Bruninga (with NO disrespect
>intended in any way, shape, or form!) has stopped developing DOS-based
>APRS and moved on to other things.

None taken, but what you dont see is that most of my efforts in APRSdos
over the last 2 years have been in adding "specialty" versions such as
APRSdata and APRStk.  Just 2 weeks ago, I took a whole weekend to do a
simple 10 minute addition to APRStk so that it could use its ROTOR-CONTROL
interface to not only track satellites, but to track any moving object.

Should have only taken 10 minutes or so.  argh!  But I broke something in
the source code and now I cannot even get it to run.  It just locks up
the PC completely with no error codes or anything..  I have since spent
HOURS over many days and am stuck.  And now that all my PC's are "windows"
based, the 5 minutes to reboot during troubleshooting is enough to make
anyhone quit..

Your points, however are completely valid...

>We are STILL sadly lacking of a serious ON-AIR backbone.
>We are STILL operating at ... 1200 baud!
<snip>

Bob

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Subject: Re: WAS:  KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:00:47 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 7

On Mon, 5 May 2003, Jim Duncan wrote:

>I submit that amateur radio is rapidly losing (if it hasn't already!)
>it's technical edge on the market.  It's up to US (the movers and
>shakers of ham radio) to develop this APRS technology and return our
>focus to doing what we do ON THE AIR and NOT relying upon the internet
>to do it for us!

I think the best use of our time and resources and knowledge is to take
the ball of 802.11 and run with it.  Use our RF knowledge to make 802.11
work for us using all off the shelf stuff.

In one sense we could engineer something better for us, but in the other
sense, the availablility of dirt-cheap technology has always been the most
significant driving factor in Amateur Radio Development.  We take
something that "is" and turn it into somehing that does something for us
very well.

I think HAMS could put up free 802.11 access points with good antennas and
the right software that could provide a potent resource in publioc service
support!  That's what we do!

Bob, WB4APR

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Subject: Re: WAPRS 270 bug report.
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:07:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8

This should be exactly the same as version 2.6,  and the width limit 
was required to get the maps to line up properly. If it behaves 
differently then 2.6.0 then I need to know about it.

Mark

At 6:26 PM -0500 5/5/03, Jim Duncan wrote:
>Just started 2.7.0.... My Precision Map window can not be adjusted for
>size.  Seems to be stuck with respect to width.  Height seems to adjust
>OK and expand/minimize works...

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Subject: Re: Bug Report
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 06:11:42 -0700
X-Message-Number: 9

I am curious, does WinAPRS have it's own Sig for bug reports?

Jim, WA6OFT

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