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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Thursday, March 27, 2003.
1. Re: APRS development?
2. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
3. Re: APRS development?
4. Re: [ Alex ] Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
5. Additional Outdoor Temp Probe Available for Ultimeter WX Stations
6. Re: [ Alex ] Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
7. dumb tracker with just a GPS and TNC to display waypoints on GPS?
8. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
9. Re: [ Alex ] Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
10. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs - KISS
11. Re: APRS development?
12. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
13. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
14. WinAPRS new version screen shots
15. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
16. Re: APRS development?
17. Re: APRS development?
18. Re: Software FSK implementation
19. RE: Software FSK implementation
20. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
21. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
22. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
23. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
24. Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
25. Re: [ Alex ] Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
26. Re: APRS development?
27. Re: [ Alex ] Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
28. Re: [ Alex ] Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
29. my packets on findu.com
30. RE: my packets on findu.com
31. Re: my packets on findu.com
32. Re: my packets on findu.com
33. Re: my packets on findu.com
34. APRS Emergency packet e-mail
35. APRS Emergency packet e-mail
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Subject: Re: APRS development?
From: "Herb Gerhardt" <hgerhardt@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:22:46 -0800
X-Message-Number: 1
Mark,
I am really glad to see that you will be coming out with a new version for
WinAPRS shortly. I have been trying other programs but still like WinAPRS
best. I got used to some of the features which are unique to WinAPRS and
hate to give them up. Besides that, I got my wife who is not very computer
literate, to be able to use it well enough to follow my escapades and she
will not try any of the other versions. I am really looking forward to the
new release and am holding my breath to see what new features will come
along with it. I am still pursuing the integration of APRS into SAR but
still need scrolling Topo maps so that it will become more useful during
our normal backcountry searches in the mountains of Western Washington.
As far as the Mic-E fix goes, that's great news, however very few stations
in the NW are running Version 2.6.1 mainly do to its PM 2/3 screen size.
Even though I am running it on one of my laptops, I have been telling our
users to hold off upgrading until this partial screen problem has been
fixed.
For your information, right now on our NW APRS network there 255 stations on
my screen of which 15 are running WinAPRS Version 2.5.0 or earlier, 30
stations are running Version 2.5.1, and only 6 stations are running
Version 2.6.1. I am not sure why those 15 have not yet updated to 2.5.1 but
I am sure that most of the 30 stations running 2.5.1 will upgrade as soon as
the full screen PM will be displayed.
As far as stability goes. I have found that WinAPRS Version 2.6.1 running
on Windows XP (Home Edition) is a very stable program. Yes, I have seen a
few hang-ups but those are very rare. When I was running Version 2.5.1 on
this same computer that version would hang up almost on a daily basis and
some times several times a day. So, yes, you are making progress. Thank
you!
Am waiting with baited breath for your next release,
Herb, KB7UVC
NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator
Our WEB Site: www.nwaprs.org
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-aprssig-29709@lists.tapr.org
>[mailto:bounce-aprssig-29709@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Mark Sproul
>Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:22 PM
>To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group
>Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group
>Subject: [aprssig] Re: APRS development?
>
>Curt
>
>It was disabled in the code on April 29, 2002, this corresponds with
>the release at Dayton last year.
>
>Sorry but there is no way to disable it in previous versions.
>
>Mark
>
>At 4:13 PM -0800 3/26/03, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>
>>While we're asking for things, could Mic-E expansion be turned off
>>permanently in any future revisions of your programs?
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Subject: Re: Digipeating and fun with PIDs
From: Juergen Frank <db2fm@jfsattv.de>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:14:22 +0100
X-Message-Number: 2
As I understand it (tell me, if I'm wrong, please), is the PID a selection
of the lane on a highway, to make a comparison. All packets 'drive' on the
same street but on different lanes. So why not test it there? If any client
software crashes when getting a packet not a marked with a PID it knows,
than it has a problem, not the originator of the new PID. AX.25 has
protocol-specs and what Scott does is no violation of it, if I understand
right.
What is proposed here sounds like: "Test your new car wherever you want, but
not on a street!"
I don't think that Scott would test on 144.39 if he wouldn't be sure that it
should work without problems and having tested on different frequencies
without problems.
Progress is made by doing, not by waiting...
Juergen
--
DB2FM
Juergen Frank
mailto: db2fm@amsat.org
mailto: db2fm@darc.de
mailto: db2fm@jfsattv.de
ICQ: 144135020
AFU-PR: DB2FM@DB0LJ.#RPL.DEU.EU
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Subject: Re: APRS development?
From: "hasan schiers" <schiers@netins.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:25:30 -0600
X-Message-Number: 3
Guys, Mark is NOT saying XP is "crashy". He's saying it can be made to
crash.
I have found WinXP home to be super stable. Actually, my Win98SE machines
run weeks before running out of GDI Resources.
None of which has anything to do with the APRS Development discussion. With
respect to WinAPRS, it's buggy, and always has been, when actually USED
instead of being stared at.
APRS+SA and UI-View32 are both quite stable. I've not been able to make
UI-View32 crash, EVER. Months and months and months of perfect operation,
all the time beating the hell out of it, not simply staring at it. APRS+SA
was similarly stable, but "sluggish" and did not include smart digipeating.
UI-View is frequently updated and the author is available on his own
dedicated list to answer questions, etc. APRS+SA has always been on a solid
development cycle and Brent has been responsive to questions and concerns.
(Sometimes his response was "No".)
I don't post much about UI-View here because I don't want to generate a
pee'ing contest about aprs client software, but I will make the following
observations and then close my participation in the thread:
The UI-View32 program and its suite of add-ons continue to run in an
amazingly efficient manner in terms of CPU (processor) utilization. Latest
figures using TaskInfo 2003 (just updated this software today):
CPU: Celeron 1.3 gig, 512 mb RAM, WinXP home
Running programs: (not including the plethora of background junk)
AGWPE (latest version for TNC control, not sound card tnc)
Zone Alarm Pro(software firewall)
EchoLink (new version as of yesterday)
UI-View32 with PMAP/Igate/2 ports/NWS Warnings
UI-Weather
UI-Path32 ver 5
UI-Height/Track
UI-Traffic 2.3.2
UI-Server Filter
AGW Terminal
Norton AntiVirus 2003
APC Powerchute Pro (auto shut down UPS)
TaskInfo 2003
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Average long term CPU utilization: 5.4% !!!
Memory: Free Physical Memory 300 Mb, 512 mb installed.
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What a wonder.
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Summary:
UI-View32 has become the "Swiss Army Knife" of APRS programs, without
being a resource hog and is ROCK SOLID STABLE. In several months of
operation as an Igate 24/7, I have never had a single crash. Not one!
The program is fast, efficient and reliable. To top it all off, user
support is unprecedented. Roger is on the mailing list, ui-view, which
is very active and populated by people who like to help and support the
software instead of bickering about ...well, everything. Roger is very
fast in responding and has gone overboard to help users who experience
difficulty. One testament to the reliablity of the program is that I
have yet to see a single report of a problem from a user (including
several by me), that were not the result of cockpit error. There are
many web pages for downloading and support. The add-ins are all FREE.
Roger's UI-View32 program costs approximately $xx.xx, yep xx bucks!!!
Precision Mapping 5.x is about $xx.xx, but is strictly optional, although
I love it!
disclaimer: I don't work for Roger, nor do I receive any monetary or
other benefit from his or any other program.
If you want something that is loaded with features, easy to use, fast
and cheap, UI-View32 1.86 is your BABY
UI-View32 Author Web Page:
http://www.ui-view.com
....hasan, N0AN
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