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Subject: Fwd: [Kenwood] Kenwood redefines Warranty
From: tvsjr <tvsjr@sprynet.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:41:02 -0600
X-Message-Number: 16
I usually try not to forward from list to list, but can anyone confirm,
deny, or refute this? As a D700 owner with the old firmware, I'm interested...
73s
Terry, N5RSE
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>Subject: [Kenwood] Kenwood redefines Warranty
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>Over this past week I learned that kenwood is now supplying dealers with
>TM-D700A mobiles with upgraded firmware. The upgrade, according to
>Kenwood, enables the transceiver to communicate with the latest Garmin
>GPS's. My TM-D700A is only a few months old and does not have this
>upgraded firmware so, I asked for the details and learned that they
>(Kenwood) want $xx to flash in the upgrade as a "special" comm cable is
>required. I explained that my radio is but a few months old but they
>told me too bad. So if you want to use your TM-D700A with your new
>Garmin GPS bend over 'cause they ain't gonna give it to ya under
>warranty. I disagree with that, how about other TM-D700A owners?
>Gary
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Subject: Re: Deluo line of GPS recievers
From: KC7ZRU - Tate <kc7zru@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:45:06 -0700
X-Message-Number: 17
Michael Francoeur wrote:
>Does the Deluo line of GPS recievers work well on 12 volts?
>
>Mike/N1NAF
Mmmm, VERY good question - I'm sorry to say I don't know right off. I
think it requires 5V regulated. But, I'll check with Dave, he has a
couple running - I'll see!!
73
--
"The Dungeon" online at http://go.to/kc7zru
Casper, WY | CARC Repeater
DN62tt | 146.940-
http://www.trib.com/~carc
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Subject: Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:07:07 -0600
X-Message-Number: 18
At 09:41 PM 3/3/2003, tvsjr wrote:
>I usually try not to forward from list to list, but can anyone confirm,
>deny, or refute this? As a D700 owner with the old firmware, I'm interested...
This is pretty much standard SOP for any company where the
hardware/firmware has to updated by the factory. What's $xx? ...it's an
hour of benchtime.
Let's face it, you buy something and a week or a month later it's
superceeded. Sould every company on the planet provide FREE factory
upgrades everytime they change hardware/firmware? Hey, I have a bunch of
Linksys WAP 11's v1.1 -- I suppose I'm entitled to free replacement WAP11's
now that they are up to v 2.6?
Several years ago I bought a very expensive lightweight camping stove. Two
months later they came out with an improved version that also could run on
a multitude of different fuels. I called the manufacturer and explained
my situation. Their response: If you want a stove with all the new
features....
BUY the improved model.
Just be thankful that Kenwood is even offering the upgrade for a small fee.
73,
Mark
KC7BXS
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Subject: Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
From: "Ramon F. Kolb" <ramon@ieee.org>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:17:50 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19
I'm not sure about your linksys, but the routers I've used (Palmrouter
and Netgear) provide firmware upgrades for free via the internet. My
previous mobile phone used to be upgraded for free by the operator, my
current one (a Sony-Ericsson) can also be upgraded albeit not for free.
In this world with computer controller transceivers and flashable
firmware, I think it'd be good service of anyone to make new firmware
versions available for free, especially if it mainly fixes bugs. Even
Microsoft does Service Packs for free via the internet...
I agree with you, upgrades that require HARDWARE changes are most of the
time not for free. However, buggy firmware upgrades should be free IMHO,
and preferably something you can do at home.
73s,
--Ramon
Ramon F. Kolb, AB1CE, PA3EUG, Boston, MA, USA [FN42KI]
ICQ:77117744; MSNMGR:legalalien30@hotmail.com
http://ab1ce.webhop.org
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Subject: Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:50:19 -0600
X-Message-Number: 20
At 10:17 PM 3/3/2003, Ramon F. Kolb wrote:
>I'm not sure about your linksys, but the routers I've used (Palmrouter
>and Netgear) provide firmware upgrades for free via the internet.
The firmware upgrades are free, but in Linksys' case it is due to FLAWS in
their system.
And the firmware has not addressed these flaws. That's why they have new
versions of their hardware, specifically for the WAP11 2.2 and 2.6. They
are entirely different animals on the inside.
>I agree with you, upgrades that require HARDWARE changes are most of the
>time not for free. However, buggy firmware upgrades should be free IMHO,
>and preferably something you can do at home.
I assume that the FCC has some requirements on modern transceivers about
what you can and can not flash on the user end. I have an older scanner
where I ran a little Visual Basic program with the programming cable
attached and "Hey Presto!" the scanner had all it's previously blocked 800
MHz channels now free and clear.
Furthermore, if you look at what's happening in the wireless networking
field, there are so many software/firmware hacks that I'm sure it's giving
manufacturers fits. I wonder how many script kiddies have burned up or
locked up their access points by installing or trying to install
unauthorized firmware on this type hardware? I wonder how many of them
box up the fried unit and return it back to Best Buy, saying, "I dunno, it
just quit working..."
If you read and comprehended the initial post the stated intention of the
firmware upgrade was to take into account changes made by a THIRD PARTY,
that is: Garmin.
Kenwood has no control over Garmin, and shouldn't be picking up the bill to
deal with changes/updates made by other manufacturers. Why not send the
$xx Kenwood bill to Garmin and see if they pay it?
73,
Mark
KC7BXS
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Subject: Stations.txt
From: Reid Crowe <bigreidous@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:52:52 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 21
I created a Stations.txt file with the stations I want flagged and igated,
but none are being flagged or gated. Any ideas? I put a tab after each
thing. Here is exactly what the file looks like (with out the "-------"
and it is not doubble spaced ):
----------------------------------------------------------
KC0IDI FLAGGED
KC0MEO FLAGGED IGATE
KC0GSF-9 FLAGGED
N0LRF FLAGGED
N0LRF-14 FLAGGED
KC0IDI-2 FLAGGED IGATE
KE4SLC-14 FLAGGED IGATE
KA2FNK-2 FLAGGED IGATE
KC0IDF FLAGGED
NK0Z FLAGGED
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Subject: Re: 222-MHz Business Band Retunes?
From: Skip Allison <skipk9sa@ameritech.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:00:56 -0600
X-Message-Number: 22
Motorola makes a 220 mobile (CDM1550) and portable radio (HT1250).
Currently they are only type accepted for the commercial radio
frequencies (216-222). They will go up to 225 with the right software
tweaks.
http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,1958,999_721_23,00.html
http://www.motorola.com/cgiss/docs/ht1250ls_catsheet.pdf
http://www.motorola.com/cgiss/docs/cdm1550LS_bro.pdf
The catalog sheets don't show it yet, but 216-222 MHz versions are
shipping now.
Skip
K9SA
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