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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:11:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 20
ahhh...... but if what if you are willing to take responsibility AND you are
sure the originator is a ham?
As an example, I can use a part15 "Mr Microphone" to remote my mic on my car
radio, as long as I'm a ham, and I take steps to ensure that no one but me
gets on the ham band.
Wes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Cc: "APRS Sig" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
>Well, that would run afoul of Part 97.
>With excception of the spacemen, you cannot
>rebroadcast non-amateur signals in the
>amateur bands.
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Subject: RE: OnStar?
<LYR27917-121427-2003.02.21-16.25.46--khufford#comcast.net@lists.tapr.org>
From: KENT HUFFORD <khufford@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:15:20 -0500
X-Message-Number: 21
Try this web site. He has how to hack into ONSTAR GPS boxes and get the
rs232 out. Even includes pictures...
Kent
KQ4KK
http://members.cox.net/onstar/
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:12:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 22
Ahhh, but I would suggest a careful readin' of 97-113
(e). Seems clear to me....
FRS is not ham radio, nor are Part 15 devices (which should be obvious to
all but the very dull as 15 ain't 97 :-) ).
I'm sure RH will hold you responsible, so takin' the'responsibility won't
be a problem!
73 de Ronnie
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:49:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 23
Jeff King wrote:
>
>Technically, the posits have to be generated manually on FRS/GMRS, i.e. a
>button push. The TinyTrak would violate this rule, so I don't think there is
>any advantage to APRS here.
Actually that is about the change. See the document I posted on here
before:
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-03-26A1.pdf
In particular section C, page 10, "Initiation of Transmission of
Location Information" is of interest. Garmin changed it's position and
opted for including language that makes it less specific on how to
initiate the transmission of position information. Polling is onother
option. Now polling can mean a lot of things. Does it mean one poll, one
transmission, or could it mean that the unit only needs to receive one
poll in order to switch to a beacon mode so that the lost person could
be found? You be the judge, I'm not going to split hairs over this one.
After the latest Report and Order on this issue came out my interest in
FRS dropped.
>FYI, MURS *does* allow automatic posits (unless PRSG gets its way)
Do we have a name yet that goes with PRSG? I guess I could search the
public comments and find out.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: Weather Station & APRS
From: James Smith <k9apr@tawg.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:48:56 -0500
X-Message-Number: 24
Hello all,
Can someone aid in the the information needed to get this wx station to
work with WinAPRS. Or any special setting that needed to be applied.
Pls. reply to tlimestahl@mchsi.com or me directly and not to the list
server.
TIA,
Begin Fwd
Hi
I just purchased a new weather station and I am trying to run it along
with APRS. I have it all hooked up and my APRS is running, and the
weather station is running. Is there some special configuration that I
have to do to get the weather data to show on my APRS?
My weather station is a Oregon Scientific WM-918.
Any help would be appreciated.
73's
Theresa KB9NNR
Fremont, IN
End Fwd
73, James, K9APR
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 23:20:53 -0500
X-Message-Number: 25
Yup, you got me there....
http://www.hallikainen.com/cgi-bin/section.pl?section=97.3
97-113 (e)
(e) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from
any type of radio station other than an amateur station, except
propagation and weather forecast information intended for use by the
general public and originated from United States Government stations and
communications, including incidental music, originating on United States
Government frequencies between a space shuttle and its associated Earth
stations. Prior approval for shuttle retransmissions must be obtained
from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such
retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur operators.
Propagation, weather forecasts, and shuttle retransmissions may not be
conducted on a regular basis, but only occasionally, as an incident of
normal amateur radio communications.
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The only thing I can think of here (honestly, not to be argumenative) is
this - does a Mr Microphone or FRS radio operating as a part 15 device, but
under my control as an amateur constitute "an amateur station"? Doesn't my
PC fall under Part 15?
I looked under 97.3 under definitions and found....
(1) Amateur operator. A person holding a written authorization to be
the control operator of an amateur station.
(5) Amateur station. A station in an amateur radio service
consisting of the apparatus necessary for carrying on
radiocommunications.
Wes
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Subject: RDF Question
From: "Peter \"Dakota\" Summerhawk" <wymarine@toughguy.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:01:25 -0700
X-Message-Number: 26
I was thinking of using HT whips for the array in my setup for RDF on the
Doppler setup on my roof of the car. Does anyone have any experience with
this? Does it work or is it better to stick with the non HT type whip (eg:
mobile type antennas) If someone can give me some information?
Thanks
Peter "Dakota" Summerhawk
APRS/SSTV/VHF/UHF
ARES/RACES/SKYWARN
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