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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Wednesday, February 12, 2003.
1. Re: Message queuing and acks?
2. RE: Family Radio Service about to change
3. RE: Family Radio Service about to change
4. Re: Family Radio Service about to change
5. PCSAT BBS Operations
6. MS Internet Exploreer
7. Re: MS Internet Exploreer
8. RE: MS Internet Exploreer
9. RE: MS Internet Exploreer
10. RE: Family Radio Service about to change
11. Mailing list for new spec development
12. RE: MS Internet Exploreer
13. Re: DX display on Kenwood d700a
14. [Fwd: Further statement on BeacoNet]
15. Connecting to APRS-IS - Programming Question
16. RE: MS Internet Exploreer
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Subject: Re: Message queuing and acks?
From: JD Erskine VA7OTC <VA7OTC@rac.ca>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:34:00 -0800
X-Message-Number: 1
On 30 January 2003 14:16, Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI wrote:
>While reading over the spec on station-to-station messaging, a thought
>occured to me. Would it be possible to configure certain stations (maybe
>WIDEs and IGATEs) to queue messages sent by end users, and provide an
>'in-transit' ack? A queue ack would indicate to the sending station that
>the message has been accepted by a reliable station (and hopefully commited
>to non-volatile memory) for delivery, and the sending station could quit
>retransmitting the message with the assurance that it'll be passed on and
>acknowledged if required.
>
>Is there anything like this currently implemented?
>
>Scott / N1VG
I'm days behind on reading the posts however I didn't see an feedback on this
one. Without meaning to sound snide, it sounds like connected AX25 packet
using network nodes (Netrom, TheNet, KA-Nodes, NetPlus...) vice UI frame
based APRS.
73 JD
--
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Subject: RE: Family Radio Service about to change
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:14:01 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2
AE5PL Lists wrote:
>This was done solely for Garmin. Garmin pushed for the change to make
>their FRS radios legal and they, apparently, got what they wanted.
Actually, it was the Personal Radio Steering Group (
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/ ) who proposed this silly requirement of
not allowing external devices. Apparently they have a board of
directors, but they do not disclose who they are, they also claim to
have a staff of volunteers. My bet it's just a single person. On their
(or his/her) website they state (as one of their purposes):
<quote>
to protect this service from the threat of encroachment and
usurpation by commercial and industrial interests.
</quote>
Apparently they take their own goals not too serious and have no clue
what the effect is of their silly proposal. Perhaps it's just one of
those organisations brought to live by a company so they can have a
second voice, not uncommon in local and national politics.
Oh well, I hope the FCC checks out organisations and does not blindly
accepts proposals and comments. I'll crawl back in my hole on this one
before someone tells me to.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: RE: Family Radio Service about to change
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:18:03 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
>AE5PL Lists wrote:
>
>Actually, it was the Personal Radio Steering Group (
>http://www.provide.net/~prsg/ ) who proposed this silly requirement of
>not allowing external devices. Apparently they have a board of
>directors, but they do not disclose who they are, they also claim to
>have a staff of volunteers. My bet it's just a single person.
Did you notice the 'groups' phone number? Just below it is the message
[best: evenings to midnight Eastern time]
I think that validates your suspicion right there!
Hmm, let's think of a fancy name, and then go to the FCC and say WE
are the 'voice of the FRS user'. (Hey, I use FRS, and I'm sure most
of the people here do too!)
Mike
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Subject: Re: Family Radio Service about to change
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:24:28 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4
Wes Johnston wrote:
>Do ya think this change was made to facilitate the garmin Rino radios?
I'm pretty sure it is. What I was hoping for is that changes in the FRS
rules would lead to cheaper GPS products for us if this niche market
would more attaractive to competitors.
>Last I heard someone in OK was trying to change the local oscillator freq to
>bring them into the ham band.
Changing only the local oscillator would work in a non-PLL circuit. It
has been a while since I worked with PLL circuits, but you'd also have
to change the reference oscillator. The PLL just tries to correct the LO
if you try to take it out of band. Of course I'm preaching to the choir
here (or uttering nonsense, you pick :) )
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: PCSAT BBS Operations
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:34:06 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 5
PCSAT BBS is enabled. See http://www.ew.usna.edu/pcsat for details.
Remember also the User Service Agreement posted there.
Volunteer needed:
Since I am personally swamped with 2 other satellite projects, we need
someone in Hawaii, or other remote Island area to check the BBS daily and
send me a capture file of the BBS message list. This is for record
purposes so we can assess the value of this mode.
If you think you can do this (and you are not in the USA or Europe), let
me know so we can designate you as the main one, so I dont have to sort
through multiple copies.
Thanks
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
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Subject: MS Internet Exploreer
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:40:30 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 6
When I view the pcsat.aprs.org WEB page, (or any findu page) MS Internet
Explorer tries to "center" the callsign and ICON field making a cluttered
looking jagged display. Netscape aligns it perfectly, so its not FINDU,
but MS...
Im using MS IE 6.0.2600. ANyone else seeing this misalignment?
Any fixes?
Bob
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Subject: Re: MS Internet Exploreer
From: Andrew Rich <andrew.rich@bigpond.com>
Date: 13 Feb 2003 01:02:27 +1000
X-Message-Number: 7
MOZILLA looks ok....Microstuff again
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Subject: RE: MS Internet Exploreer
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:46:17 -0000
X-Message-Number: 8
I think IE centers table contents by default when the table is contained
within a <center> block. The <center> tag was a Netscape invention and it's
not always safe to assume it'll behave like you expect. The fix (if Steve
wants to do it) is to change the <TD> tag to <TD ALIGN="LEFT"> for each of
the table data elements. It might also work at the <TABLE> level, but I'd
have to try it.
Scott / N1VG
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Subject: RE: MS Internet Exploreer
From: James Jefferson <jjeffers@aprsworld.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:55:48 -0600
X-Message-Number: 9
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 10:46 am, Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI wrote:
>I think IE centers table contents by default when the table is contained
>within a <center> block. The <center> tag was a Netscape invention and
>it's not always safe to assume it'll behave like you expect. The fix (if
>Steve wants to do it) is to change the <TD> tag to <TD ALIGN="LEFT"> for
>each of the table data elements. It might also work at the <TABLE> level,
>but I'd have to try it.
Or just replace the <CENTER> tag with a <DIV ALIGN="CENTER"> tag and the
</CENTER> with a </DIV>.
I try to write all of my code so it validates to the appropriate standard.
Although it guarantees nothing, it does go a long way in making the code
work with all browsers. You can use http://validator.w3.org/. Findu doesn't
appear to specify some of the required information like document encoding
and document type therefore it does not validate.
-Jim KB0THN
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Subject: RE: Family Radio Service about to change
From: Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:14:48 -0600 (CST)
X-Message-Number: 10
Alex, you hit the jackpot . THe PRSG is ONE PERSON. We call them the anti-
christ of MURS.... the succeed in getting digi's made illegal there. It is a
ham, who seems to want to keep FRS and MURS "CB" for his voice good buddies.
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