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Subject: Re: APRSdos version 864 release
From: "Bill Vodall WA7NWP" <wa7nwp@jnos.org>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 11:22:24 -0700
X-Message-Number: 12
>APRSdos lives!. We used it this last weekend
I'd have APRSdos on every computer system I use; Windows, DOS and Linux...
....if it supported the standard KISS mode interfacing to TNC's!
73,
Bill - WA7NWP
PS. Well, on everything but the HP-95. its screen is too small...
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Subject: Re: Easy Manual Position reporting for events.
From: David Rush <david@davidarush.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:48:05 -0600
X-Message-Number: 13
Bob:
>It should be very useful where you have lots of D7's
>but GPS's on walking humans is difficult or impossible.
>de WB4APR, Bob
It is? I do it all the time. I've got a short piece of PVC pipe (about
18 in long) strapped vertically to a daypack (I use the straps meant to
hold an ice axe or "trekking poles", neither of which I normally need
going to/from work or around town), with a PVC "plug" glued to one end
with some velcro on it's flat horizontal top. Deluo GPS (with "the
other" side of velcro on the bottom ) stuck to it. GPS on a stick. This
setup keeps the GPS clear of most of the pack and horizontal, and it's
about at shoulder level. In theory my head blocks part of it's signal,
but it doesn't seem to be a problem. I use it pedestrian and bicycle
mobile all the time, hooked to a PocketTracker in the daypack as well,
with it's antenna sticking out of one of the pack's pockets. Four
AA-size NiMH batteries power the Deluo directly for hours. Works fine.
David, ky7dr
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Subject: Re: neat use for tiny track (pocket track)
From: "Jason Rausch" <ke4nyv@hamhud.net>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:50:55
X-Message-Number: 14
I should have mentioned...Motorola's Mandown waits about 3 seconds before
it starts to beacon. I THINK the delay time can be set in software. it's
been a while since I had to program one.
Jason KE4NYV
www.ke4nyv.com
RPC Electronics
www.ke4nyv.com/rpc
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Subject: Re: APRSdos version 864 release
From: "Richard Amirault" <ramirault@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 14:59:30 -0400
X-Message-Number: 15
OK .... I said to myself ... "Self, why don't you upgrade to 864?" ....
"Sure, why not" (I've been running APRSDos 824 for years)
Ok ... how do I get it to change to WX mode to input from my electronic wx
station? For the life of me, I can't find it.
Richard Amirault
Boston, MA
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Subject: Re: Easy Manual Position reporting for events.
From: Wes Johnston <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:03:37 -0400
X-Message-Number: 16
Now that you mention it, I'm looking at my digitraveler and I realize that
there is a tiny amount of clearance between the bottom of the battery cover
and the batteries when installed... a pair small 4-40 screws could easily
attach the battery cover the your PVC pipe / plug and the GPS could "snap"
on and off as needed.... neat idea.
Wes
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Subject: Re: Easy Manual Position reporting for events.
From: David Rush <david@davidarush.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 13:11:39 -0600
X-Message-Number: 17
Bob:
About the time I hit the "send" button I realized that I think I
interpreted your statement wrong. I thought you meant that GPSing a
walking human is difficult or impossible. Now I think you were talking
about the specific situations WHEN it's difficult or impossible to GPS
them, not that it always is. Sorry about the confusion.
David, ky7dr
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Subject: Re: Easy Manual Position reporting for events.
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer@eskimo.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 12:11:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 18
On Thu, 20 May 2004, Wes Johnston wrote:
>Now that you mention it, I'm looking at my digitraveler and I realize that
>there is a tiny amount of clearance between the bottom of the battery cover
>and the batteries when installed... a pair small 4-40 screws could easily
>attach the battery cover the your PVC pipe / plug and the GPS could "snap"
>on and off as needed.... neat idea.
And a freezer bag tie-wrapped around the whole thing might be enough
to keep it going in bad weather.
--
Curt, WE7U http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: APRSdos KISS mode (not)
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:21:45 -0400
X-Message-Number: 19
>>>"Bill Vodall WA7NWP" <wa7nwp@jnos.org>>>>
>I'd have APRSdos on every computer system I use
>...if it supported the standard KISS mode...
Point well taken. But these days, KISS is not quite as important as it
used to be for APRSdos because:
APRSdos shines when you need lots of portability and lots of laptops in the
field in a very portable and dynamic situation (come-as-you-are). And,
these days about the only TNC I ever use with a laptop portable in this
kind of situation is the D7.
Thus any potential compatibility issues with CMD: mode interfacing goes
away, when a standard TAPR2 and especially the TH-D7 is used.
So I do agree with you. But the urgency of adding KISS support is getting
less urgent...
Besides, with some zip-cord and some clip leads, I can let many APRSdos
laptops share a single D7 using the ZIPLAN function... This really
multiples the power of APRS while serving multiple operators in a portable
headquarters in the field (where there is no internet)...
I have two suitcases with 4 old 386 color laptops each and those 8 laptops
and a few D7's can sure do a lot at a local "RF" event...
Bob
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Subject: extruded cases
From: Wes Johnston <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:27:29 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20
Well, I disassembled my old mic-encoder (tapr) to test the fit for the MFJ
data radio... a perfect fit at 4-5/8" wide... the data radio's PCB could
stand to be a hair wider - may .005", but it does not fall out of the
grooves inside and the length of the aluminum extrusion is perfect
too.... still no definitive source of these enclosures... did tapr get
them from the same place Paccomm did?
Anyway, I was looking around hammond's site at their extruded cases, and,
well, if John Hansen's TNCx were 2.95" wide instead of 2.50 inches wide, it
would fit in hammond extruded box 1455K1201 . The MIC-e extruded box is
1-5/16 high on the outside and that is just enough to clear theUSB
connector on TNC-x.
So then, I compared my Spirit 2 TNC case to the mic-e case and well, the
spirit 2 uses the SAME extrusion as the tapr mic-e (what a
coincidence). The spirit 2 case is much longer at 9-1/8", but if it were
1-1/2 inches shorter, the MFJ data radio could fit inside along with the
TNCx, and still have some room left over for batteries and just the tip of
the USB connector sticking out the ends. Now if the TNC-x PCB was just as
wide as the MFJ data radio, they'd both fit into the same slides in the
extrusion...
John, are you listening? wink
Wes
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Subject: Re: Easy Manual Position reporting for events.
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:33:14 -0400
X-Message-Number: 21
I just uploaded a newer APRS864 which has a built-in example file for the
manual D7 position locating. Just zoom to the whole USA view and using
your D7's POS button, enter:
N 40 00.00
W40 00.0X
where X is the digit 1 through 9 and you will see yourself move from Call
district to Call district. Then zoom to the 4 mile scale and you will see
a 1 mile position ambiguity circle. Then on the D7 change your call and
send another posit. and you will be joined by another manual posit...
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Subject: Re: APRSdos version 864 release
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:50:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 22
>>>"Richard Amirault" <ramirault@erols.com> 5/20/04 2:59:30 PM >>>
>(I've been running APRSDos 824 for years)
>Ok ... how do I get it to change to WX mode to input
>from my electronic wx station? For the life of me, I can't find it.
To clean start APRS always type APRS864/new
and the "new" will tell it to let you re-configure from the beginning. When
it asks for DUAL ports, hit D. THen later it will ask you how you want to
use the second port (DF unit, WX, or outputting NMEA). Enter W and then
select the rain gage setting and that should be it.
When it is up and running, then alt-S-SAVE to make it remember it. I think
there may be a bug in one of the WX instruments support, but I dont
remember whihc one...
Bob
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