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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, April 18, 2004.
1. Re: Balloon Launch WIKI page needed`
2. Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
3. Re: agwpe
4. Nice opening
5. Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
6. RE: Nice opening
7. Re: Balloon Launch WIKI page needed`
8. RE: Nice opening-Not related
9. Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
10. Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
11. Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
12. Re: FW: [CarolinaAPRS] ICON for LANn-n
13. Re: Balloon Launch WIKI page needed`
14. Re: [ui-view] Ambiguity?
15. Re: [ui-view] Removal of the UI-View message extensions fromUI-View32
16. APRS greater precision
17. Re: APRS greater precision
18. fourth.aprs.net
19. Re: APRS greater precision
20. Re: APRS greater precision
21. Re: APRS greater precision
22. Re: APRS greater precision
23. Re: APRS greater precision
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Subject: Re: Balloon Launch WIKI page needed`
From: "Kurt A. Freiberger" <kurt@badgers-hill.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:29:57 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1
As I remember, most balloons I've seen had wiki baskets that people rode in.
Oh, that's wicker....
Nevermind.
kf
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:54:09 -0700
"Spider" <spider@rivcom.net> wrote:
>I see a Balloon flying in AZ right now as I type this 16:49:59 UTC.
>KD7LMO-11
>
>Is there any info about this anywhere???
>
>It would sure be nice if someone could launch a WIKI balloon web page so
>that launches could be known all over the country. Any info about a launch
>would be better than none!
>
>It's interesting to note that this "ballon" is going the opposite direction
>from the surface winds at 105mph!
>
>Jim, WA6OFT
--
Kurt A. Freiberger Austin, TX kurt@badgers-hill.net
Amateur Radio Callsign WB5BBW AIM Handle: WB5BBW
"Some people are like Slinkys - Generally considered useless, but
you can't help smiling when you see them falling down the stairs."
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Subject: Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
From: "Phil Pacier, AD6NH" <ad6nh@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 23:44:22
X-Message-Number: 2
On 04/17/04, "Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>" wrote:
>findU also has a special page for this event:
>
>http://b2v.findu.com/
>
>This page has the advantage of instantly loading the most recent report for
>each station
No advantage I see, as the b2v.aprsca.net site will do the same. The only
thing I have not quite figured out yet is the mileage table. The official
site also uses full-color street-level scale maps. Nonetheless thank you
for your support of the race!
73
Phil - AD6NH
http://b2v.aprsca.net
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Subject: Re: agwpe
From: "Bob Birkner" <robirkner@spro.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:45:14 -0700
X-Message-Number: 3
Wes,
What motherboard are you using, please?
Tnx,
-Bob
>Subject: RE: agwpe
>From: Wes Johnston <wes@johnston.net>
>Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:08:50 -0400
>X-Message-Number: 1
>
>This gets very interesting... I tried and tried with the serial port built
>into the motherboard and no luck. AGWPE would lock up on init every time
>trying to talk to my kpc3. I then created a sound card modem as a test,
>and AGWPE worked. I then installed a USB serial port as COM3, and it is
>working. Must be a conflict with AGWPE and my motherboard serial driver.
>
>Wes
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Subject: Nice opening
From: Earl Needham <needhame1@yucca.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:33:10 -0700
X-Message-Number: 4
We seem to be having a nice 2 meter opening this morning, check this out:
K8RAG-10>APRS,KF4BJM*,KD4MOJ-5*,WY8O-8*,W4IAX-7*,CAPTAN*,KA5B*,TRACE7-1
Port=1 <UI Len=64>:
!2949.38N/08252.00W#PHG8460/ www.surf.to/sonnys ag4px@arrl.net
That's 1232 miles for 6 hops. Not too bad!
7 3
Earl
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
SETI@Home: 11461WU/7.43yrs
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=kd5xb-2
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Subject: Re: Official Baker to Vegas 2004 Tracking Website Complete
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 10:05:57 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5
On 4/17/04 at 11:44 PM Phil Pacier, AD6NH <ad6nh@arrl.net> sent:
>No advantage I see, as the b2v.aprsca.net site will do the same.
Not quite, there is more that must occur in loading the javAPRS page...you
must download the javAPRS application, the checkpoint file, the tiger
server must create and send the map file, your computer must start the java
virtual machine, and connect to the data server.
On a fast Univeristy connection, the map appears 15 seconds after the page
loads, in another 5 seconds the stations appear. On a slow dial-up
connection it would take even longer. Of course, after the first time it is
faster as the applet and some other things load from cache.
>The only thing I have not quite figured out yet is the mileage table.
By knowing where the checkpoints are, findU can place a team on the correct
leg, and estimate the distances between team and the two checkpoints, it is
linear between the checkpoints, so it does not take into account the twists
of the mountain road (my requests for a more complete set of points, as I
used for the Mississippi River Challenge, have not been answered), it is
not perfect, but is can at a glance show where all the teams are. That can
be hard to do from the map, as there are so many trackers there that any
scale which can show the full course is jammed up with overlapping
trackers, you need to zoom in and follow the course to see all the
positions.
>The official site also uses full-color street-level scale maps.
Actually the use of tigermaps would be of concern to me, especially if you
get big loads. The tiger server can take 15 seconds or more during peak
periods to produce a map. The event occurs on weekends, so there will
probably be light loading outside of your application, hopefully you will
be OK.
As to street level maps, one of the things I've come to realize is that Bob
is right about simplier maps being better for APRS (at least for some
uses). The purpose of an APRS map is to provide context for position
reports. In this particular case, the context is the course and the
checkpoints. In my opinion, anything more distracts people from the
essential information. In the case of the TIGER maps, I have no idea what
the pink areas are supposed to convey, I'm guessing the greens are parks
and the yellows are incorporated areas, but none of that information
enhances my understanding of where someone is.
This situation is different than a person driving through a city, in this
case the street level maps can be of considerable help in providing
orientation.
I'm not trying to cut down javAPRS (I created it after all ;-) or your
page, just pointing out that there are some advantages (and as I stated in
the original post, a disadvantage) to findU. People should pick the one
that works best for them. No matter how you watch, this is one of the best
APRS events of the year, everyone should take a look, it is very cool, my
congrats to the guys that pull this off so well every year!
Steve K4HG
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Subject: RE: Nice opening
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:13:55 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
Yeah, great. 184 stations heard within the last 2 hours at my location
near Dallas. Don't you just love those TRACE7-7's. Really helps those
of us who try to use APRS for local operations.
73,
Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net
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Subject: Re: Balloon Launch WIKI page needed`
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:40:47 -0700
X-Message-Number: 7
I added WIKIServer to my web site.
There is a Balloon Event page started as well as an APRS event page started.
I am not a wiz at web pages but these pages allow a vistor to edit the pages
to add their events, etc.
Hopefully, the Ballon people will use it to add balloon events from all
over, so that when there is an event, people can have a one stop location to
find out. Same goes for APRS events.
If it's used, I'll stick it on a real server!
http://www.wa6oft.com:84
Enjoy!
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Subject: RE: Nice opening-Not related
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 07:49:09 -0700
X-Message-Number: 8
Not related....but was thinking about it...
In the last 3 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes Firenet has processed 5,746,001
packets!
Just to give you an idea of how many packets are flying by!
Jim, WA6OFT
----- Original Message -----
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Yeah, great. 184 stations heard within the last 2 hours at my location
near Dallas. Don't you just love those TRACE7-7's. Really helps those
of us who try to use APRS for local operations.
73,
Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net
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