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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Wednesday, April 14, 2004.
1. Re:Mobile APRS messaging
2. Re: Mobile APRS messaging
3. Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
4. Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
5. Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
6. RE: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
7. RE: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
8. Hospital WMD course
9. Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
10. RE: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
11. Re: Mobile APRS messaging
12. Re: Mobile APRS messaging
13. Re: Mobile APRS messaging
14. Re: CAP and APRS
15. Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
16. Using kpc3+ and Garmin GPS V
17. Re: Using kpc3+ and Garmin GPS V
18. RE: Using kpc3+ and Garmin GPS V
19. Emergency Services/APRS Mailing List
20. WAP APRS
21. Re: Emergency Services/APRS Mailing List
22. Re:Mobile APRS messaging
23. Re: WAP APRS
24. Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
25. Hacking into GPSs
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Subject: Re:Mobile APRS messaging
From: "KC2MMi" <kc2mmi@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:16:26 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1
<However, as far as I know there is no way to enter data over a
serial connection with the D7 at all. If I'm mistaken about this, I would
appreciate it if someone would set me straight because it would provide a
very convenient excuse for me to go buy a D7.>
John, there must be a way to do this. The programming software
(downloadable from Kenwood, and runs without a radio being present) is
capable of fully loading the radio, including the ability to change the data
in the three status message areas. So, there's a way to reach in through the
PC port and load text into those message areas, etc.
That might mean forcing a radio reset or something else to close and write
the data...but the radio still does that quickly.
You've got your excuse! For the THD7 and a PDA with a keyboard on it,
too.<G>
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Subject: Re: Mobile APRS messaging
From: Bill Herrmann <bherrman@spro.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:40:48 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2
At 03:45 PM 4/12/2004 -0700, Scott Miller wrote:
[keyboard for a Kenwood]
>Would there be any interest in this sort of setup?
There must be some interest...
http://john.hansen.net/Kenkey.htm
Bill
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Subject: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
From: "Eric H. Christensen" <kf4otn@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:47:01 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3
(This message was supposed to have gone out HOURS ago... But email server
issues didn't allow this.)
I copied this off the IS just a few minutes ago... I missed a bunch of
them, but this is weird. I see hundreds of stations sending acks to N6GVG
who is RF near Norfolk Virginia. I copied the messages off of findU and the
traffic off the IS feed. What is going on? I would hate to think that all
this is being gated over RF to him. It appears he is running PocketAPRS.
from to time message
N6GVG 04/13 21:51:38z can u qsy 145.{30{0
N6GVG 04/13 21:50:02z hi ralph how's traffic?{29{0
N6GVG 04/13 21:49:00z can u qsy 146.33 pl 136.5 in 5 minutes?{32{0
N6GVG KC4JGC 04/13 21:47:55z Can't hit it{0
W8AKR-8>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,W8AKR-8:
:N6GVG :ack0
ZR6ANF-1>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,ZR6ANF-1:
:N6GVG :ack0
KC5EZS>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,KC5EZS:
:N6GVG :ack0
VE3BSM>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,VE3BSM:
:N6GVG :ack0
K5WPN>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,K5WPN:
:N6GVG :ack0
KC8HJN>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,KC8HJN:
:N6GVG :ack0
N0KTA-2>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,N0KTA-2:
:N6GVG :ack0
KG4AVH>APU25H,TCPIP*,qAC,KG4AVH:
:N6GVG :ack0
AB9FX-4>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,AB9FX-4:
:N6GVG :ack0
KF4ZUX>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,KF4ZUX:
:N6GVG :ack0
KB0BWG>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,KB0BWG:
:N6GVG :ack0
CT2HWP>APU25H,TCPIP*,qAC,CT2HWP:
:N6GVG :ack0
W5TMP>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,W5TMP:
:N6GVG :ack0
PY3PQ>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,PY3PQ:
:N6GVG :ack0
MB7UDP>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,MB7UDP:
:N6GVG :ack0
KD7RDC-1>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,KD7RDC-1:
:N6GVG :ack0
VA3SHQ>APU25H,TCPIP*,qAC,VA3SHQ:
:N6GVG :ack0
KN0BY-1>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,KN0BY-1:
:N6GVG :ack0
M1ERS>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,M1ERS:
:N6GVG :ack0
AA3JY-2>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,AA3JY-2:
:N6GVG :ack0
K9NYX-10>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,K9NYX-10:
:N6GVG :ack0
K0HU>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,K0HU:
:N6GVG :ack0
VE6DVP>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,VE6DVP:
:N6GVG :ack0
VK3TBN>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,VK3TBN:
:N6GVG :ack0
KG0R-10>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,KG0R-10:
:N6GVG :ack0
N9QIP>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,N9QIP:
:N6GVG :ack0
VE7BZC>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,VE7BZC:
:N6GVG :ack0
VA3PKV>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,VA3PKV:
:N6GVG :ack0
N5JRH-12>APU25J,TCPIP*,qAC,N5JRH-12:
:N6GVG :ack0
KB9ZWL>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,KB9ZWL:
:N6GVG :ack0
K2LCA-1>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAC,K2LCA-1:
:N6GVG :ack0
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Subject: Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 4:9:21
X-Message-Number: 4
On 04/14/04, ""Eric H. Christensen" <kf4otn@earthlink.net>" wrote:
>(This message was supposed to have gone out HOURS ago... But email server
>issues didn't allow this.)
Eric,
It's called looping packets. This is what happens when a server gets
misconfigured or uses multiple simultaneous server connects. What server
are you connected to? <g>
These are the raw packets as seen by findU, the loop is between you, ke4tzn
and PRKRAZ-1. N6GVG > KE4TZN >< KF4OTN >< PRKRAZ-1
N6GVG>APP194,W4NHV-9,KD4PBS-3*,TRACE2-2,qAr,KE4TZN:@131220z3454.69N/07857.28Wu0/
24058/pocketAPRS
v1.94
KE4TZN>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAS,PRKRAZ-1:=3535.79N/07720.77W-John at Home {UIV32N}
KF4OTN>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAS,PRKRAZ-1:=/ KF4OTN>APU25M,TCPIP*,qAS,PRKRAZ-1:=/
The last raw packet is a classic example.
Dick, KB7ZVA
APRSWest
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Subject: Re: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 4:26:13
X-Message-Number: 5
PRKRAZ-1 is connected to fourth.aprs.net. Fourth has detected the loops to
for verification.
http://fourth.aprs.net:14501
As of this reading PRKRAZ-1 has sent the most bytes to fourth than any
other connected user. That would be the case when looping occurs.
Dick, KB7ZVA
APRSWest
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Subject: RE: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:05:46 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
Could N6GVG have sent out some sort of generic query? At first glance
(I didn't do a look-up on all of the stations) these are APRS-IS
connected (qAC) UI-View stations. They are apparently acking some sort
of message sent by N6GVG, probably some sort of generic query, though
that should not happen.
This is very similar to what was seen with older aprsd versions who
responded with messages to ?IGATE? instead of using the station
capabilities packet. And yes, all that gets gated out to RF since they
area valid messages.
73,
Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net
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Subject: RE: Not Round Robin... Worse!!!
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:33:22 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7
>from to time message
>N6GVG 04/13 21:51:38z can u qsy 145.{30{0
>N6GVG 04/13 21:50:02z hi ralph how's traffic?{29{0
>N6GVG 04/13 21:49:00z can u qsy 146.33 pl 136.5 in 5 minutes?{32{0
>N6GVG KC4JGC 04/13 21:47:55z Can't hit it{0
Looking at this, it appears that the first three messages had no
destination, my guess is this somehow acted as a wild card. Interestingly,
all 4 messages here have an ID number of zero, that alone would be a bug.
I am connecting via cell today (jury duty) and can't investigate deeper...
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Hospital WMD course
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 05:37:02 -0700
X-Message-Number: 8
Thought some of you might be interested in this...
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>
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>
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