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Subject: Re: High speed data
From: "Larry Zanella" <zcopters@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:40:43
X-Message-Number: 7

Earl, if you want true high speed data, such as 128 kb/s, you might want to 
consider the ICOM D-Star ID-1 radio. Also, you can transmit slow speed data 
(2.4 kb/s) simultaneously with AMBE 2020 digital voice on their newsest 
digital voice radios that operate on 2M/440. You can see these new digital 
voice (AMBE 2020) on their ICOM Japan site, but they are rumored to be 
introduced at this years Dayton (the ID-1 D-Star will be here sooner).

Larry

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Subject: Re: High speed data
From: "Larry" <zcopters@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:53:11
X-Message-Number: 8

If you want to drewl over the ICOM digital voice AMBE 2020 radio, check it 
out at http://www.icom.co.jp/world/products/amateur/index.htm

Click on the ICOM IC-2200H. 

They are apparently launching the VHF radio first, with 2M/440 to follow.

If you want 128 kb/s data, then you need the 1.2 GHz D-STAR ID-1, since the 
only way to get the available bandwidth in the US is at 1.2 GHz.

Enjoy!

Larry

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Subject: Re: High speed data
From: "Mike Nettles" <Mike_Nettles@centurytel.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:00:30 -0600
X-Message-Number: 9

From some of the price listings I've seen its out of reach for most,
especially myself!!
The system does look impressive though.
73
Mike kb5wbh

>consider the ICOM D-Star ID-1 radio. Also, you can transmit slow speed data

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Subject: Re: High speed data
From: "Larry" <zcopters@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:17:10
X-Message-Number: 10

My first cellphone was a Motorola DynaTAC 8000 portable, which cost me 
$4,200 in 1983 (which would be around $5,400 in 2004 dollarts). First 
adopters pay through the nose, to be sure.

My understanding is that the AMBE 2020 Icom radios on the 2M/440 bands will 
be comparably priced with their current analog FM gear. It's the high speed 
128 kb/s stuff at 1.2 GHz that is so pricey. If you can live with AMBE and 
simultaneous 2400 bps data, they are suppoosed to be priced about the same 
as today's present analog FM radios.

I guess the proof will be in the puding!

Larry

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