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Subject: Re: DIGIpeater TOCALL Standard please
From: Mark Cheavens <mcheavens@usa.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:45:16 -0600
X-Message-Number: 36
As many CW stations as there are now, it would be nice to use APRSCW or
APCW or something to designate them.
APCWxx for station type maybe?
(Bob, feedback please)
Mark
KC5EVE
At 01:06 PM 2/25/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>On 2/25/04 at 9:13 AM Curt, WE7U <archer@eskimo.com> sent:
>
>>Just as a rough check sort of thing: How could digi's be the
>>highest number? I have no doubt that digi's can be _some_
>>percentage of that 3271, but not a high percentage. Not when the
>>other client numbers are so low comparatively. There must be a lot
>>of clients running with "APRS" for some reason.
>>
>>There's something like one digi per user according to the numbers.
>>Doesn't make sense.
>>
>I wouldn't call APRS digi, but rather unclassifiable. Probably the largest
>number of these are CW stations, which generally use the APRS tocall. I
>suspect
>there are a lot of other uses of APRS...
>
>Steve K4HG
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Subject: APRS37, etc.
From: Earl Needham <needhame1@yucca.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:58:05 -0700
X-Message-Number: 37
Are these forms of APRSdos or something else entirely?
APRS37 1
APRS58 1
APRS65 1
APRS66 1
APRS82 1
APRS86 1
Thanks,
Earl
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
KD5XB-2>APW251,PCSAT-1%:=3425.83N/10313.55W-PHG7150/WinAPRS 2.5.1
-EARL_CLOVIS -251-<630>
SETI@Home: 11385WU/7.39yrs
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Subject: Re: DIGIpeater TOCALL Standard please
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:24:54
X-Message-Number: 38
>I wouldn't call APRS digi, but rather unclassifiable. Probably the largest
>number of these are CW stations, which generally use the APRS tocall. I sus-
>pect
>there are a lot of other uses of APRS...
>
>Steve K4HG
This is true and let's not forget METAR's. It may be possible to have
authors of programs like WX-Display use a tocall like APRSWX.
http://206.97.61.103/wxall.html
Dick, KB7ZVA
APRSWest
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Subject: Re: DIGIpeater TOCALL Standard please
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:25:34 -0500
X-Message-Number: 39
On 2/25/04 at 12:45 PM Mark Cheavens <mcheavens@usa.net> sent:
>As many CW stations as there are now, it would be nice to use APRSCW or
>APCW or something to designate them.
>
>APCWxx for station type maybe?
> (Bob, feedback please)
The problem is there is no specific program being used for CW...some use
WinAPRS, some use weatherdisplay, some use others (last count there were 10
that supported CW). These are used by hams as well, so you cannot make a
blanket statement.
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Re: Uncompressed vs Compressed formats
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:28:28 -0500
X-Message-Number: 40
>>>"Byon Garrabrant" said:
>TinyTrak3 has the base-91 conversion code inside it.
>It is used for MIC-E altitudes. I didn't encode the positions
>in the compressed form simply because there didn't seem
>to be an interest in having that.
Agree completely. The Mic-E format is even more compressed. The Mic-E
format is preferred for mobiles and trackers. The only advantage of the
compressed format is for PRECISION to 1 FOOT if needed. Most uses of APRS
simply don't need it.
Yes, it could be used by base stations and DIGIS but the mobiles (most of
them Mic-E format) are the bulk of the traffic on the air...
Bob
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Subject: Re: DIGIpeater TOCALL Standard please
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:32:11 -0500
X-Message-Number: 41
>>>Steve Dimse said:
>... Probably the largest
>number of these are CW stations, which generally use
>the APRS tocall....
Wow, can we get that changed in the next release of CW weather? I'd
suggest APCWxx for version number.
They should clearly be identifiable as a separate entity.
Thanks
de Wb4APR, Bob
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Subject: Re: DIGIpeater TOCALL Standard please
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:36:08 -0500
X-Message-Number: 42
On 2/25/04 at 2:32 PM Robert Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu> sent:
>>... Probably the largest
>>number of these are CW stations, which generally use
>>the APRS tocall....
>
>Wow, can we get that changed in the next release of
>CW weather? I'd suggest APCWxx for version number.
There is no such thing as CW weather. CW is a program that is open to users
of any weather program that supports APRS.
As I say, last I heard was there were about 10 different weather programs
that supported this (though the majority use a program called WX Display),
and some CW people use full APRS programs.
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Re: DIGIpeater TOCALL Standard please
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:38:32 -0500
X-Message-Number: 43
>>>Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org> 2/25/04 2:25:34 PM >>>
>The problem is there is no specific program being used for CW...some use
>WinAPRS, some use weatherdisplay, some use others (last count there were 10
that>supported CW). These are used by hams as well, so you cannot make a blanket
>statement.
I think if the users are smart enough to know how to enter their Citizens
Weather number into the program then we should make it easy enough for them
to set the TOCALL. But we should not give them free reign either or all
kinds of problems crop up...
I'd say that if they enter CWxxxx for their MYCALL, then the program should
automatically change the TOCALL to APCWxx
Bob
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Subject: GPS Question
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 13:36:15 -0700
X-Message-Number: 44
Hello all,
Looks like I am going to have to replace my Garmin 45XL. It has been a long
time since I have looked for a GPS. What is the best for the $ that you
know of? What about used ones (since it is getting to be time for
swapfests)? I use the GPS strictly for APRS.
Thanks and 73,
Dave N0EOP
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Subject: Re: Destination Addresses
From: John K9IJ <k9ij@vx5.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:38:23 -0600
X-Message-Number: 45
At 09:23 AM 2/25/2004 -0500, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>The latest TOCALL assignments are always up-to-date on
>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/errata.html
>
>de Wb4APR, Bob
>
>>>>"Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU> 2/25/04 12:00:54 AM
>>>>
>Does this list agree with everyone? Any additions?
Both lists missing APT3xx for TinyTrack3
>APRKxx APRStk
>APRS Generic, (obsolete. Digis should use APNxxx instead)
>APRXxx APRSmax
>APRTLM used my MIM's and Mic-lites, etc
>APS APRS+SA, etc
>APT TinyTrack
>APTTxx Tiny Track
>APT2xx Tiny Track II
>APTAxx K4ATM's tiny track
Etc......
-
John Rice K9IJ
k9ij@vx5.com
Webmaster, Network Admin, Janitor
http://www.k9ij.com
http://www.suhfars.org
http://www.vx5.com/~teampf
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Subject: Re: Destination Addresses
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:44:21 -0500
X-Message-Number: 46
There weren't any showing in the data... I did take that destination into
account, though.
-----Original Message-----
From: John K9IJ [mailto:k9ij@vx5.com]
At 09:23 AM 2/25/2004 -0500, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>The latest TOCALL assignments are always up-to-date on
>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/errata.html
>
>de Wb4APR, Bob
>
>>>>"Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU> 2/25/04 12:00:54
>>>>AM
>>>>
>Does this list agree with everyone? Any additions?
Both lists missing APT3xx for TinyTrack3
>APRKxx APRStk
>APRS Generic, (obsolete. Digis should use APNxxx instead) APRXxx
>APRSmax APRTLM used my MIM's and Mic-lites, etc
>APS APRS+SA, etc
>APT TinyTrack
>APTTxx Tiny Track
>APT2xx Tiny Track II
>APTAxx K4ATM's tiny track
Etc......
-
John Rice K9IJ
k9ij@vx5.com
Webmaster, Network Admin, Janitor
http://www.k9ij.com
http://www.suhfars.org
http://www.vx5.com/~teampf
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Subject: Re: FW: APRS Client Survey
From: "Gregg G. Wonderly" <gregg@skymaster.cytetech.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 16:20:23 -0600
X-Message-Number: 47
>Even if each client has a unique signature, and you extract stats from the
>full
>sample, there are still potential sources of bias (e.g. are hams in areas
>without Igates more likely to use program xyz?), but it will be much less
>likely
>to be biased than the proposed method.
APWxxxx to calls represent 12.08% of the population that Jim presented in
the list he posted. That is the default prefix used by WinAPRS. So for
those users who have not changed it, this would be their counts into the
population.
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gregg@cytetech.com (Cyte Technologies Inc)
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