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Subject: Re: Can someone enlighten me
From: "Charlie" <Charlie@naiw.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 13:00:32 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
My primary residence is a houseboat. What is the best symbol to use to
avoid the confusion of a moving "house"?
Charlie Laye
N5FFL
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Subject: Re: New option for HF 30M APRS -- TinyTrak 3b (Review)
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:04:11 -0700
X-Message-Number: 7
I would think this will make for a good tool for BeaconNet too!
Jim, WA6OFT
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>
>>>>"Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu> 2/15/04 12:29:49 PM >>>
>
>And this is the hardest half of what I have dreamed of
>since 1994. Imagine combining that with a 100W HF
>transmitter that fits in a crackerjax box under your seat
>and hooked to a modified CB whip on the roof.
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Subject: Problem with PK-232 and APRS
From: "Michael Hatzakis" <mike@hatzakis.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:01:00 -0800
X-Message-Number: 8
APRS list,
I am trying to get back into APRS after being off while I focused on
building my AO-40 satellite station, and now am turning back to APRS. I
would like to use my PK-232 as my TNC for my Icom 910H as it has the
highest capabilities with the new DSP Timewave upgrages. Problem is, I
can't get it "see" packets. I am wondering if this is a calibration
problem? Ideas?
My setup:
I have an MFJ TNC dedicated to Dx spots and another TNC (Kantronics 3+)
with radio dedicated to local APRS. I use the MFJ for HF and would like to
use the other port for Satellite Packet and APRS. I tuned these other two
TNC's to 4.39 and they see all APRS packets, the 232 only sees occasation
junk like:
7laM]V-12*>UdJ8-8 <?;6>: 38 7A B0 B8 C7 57 7B 0A
$611A.4810 <?;2>: AF A1 5A 98 AD 70 D9
999599-9>999EVJ-14*>999959-9 <?,P;1>:
$5F3C.0A19 [?,P;1]:
I've got my PK-232 set to MCON level 6, I've tried PTList. The LED bar
moves appropriately when packets come in. I've also got my SQL from the
910 wired to the SQL input, so the relay clicks on everytime the squelch is
broken, but I've tried this both ways.
I'd really appreciate any ideas before I open it up and start recalibrating
the tones.
This is a dump using DISP z
Connect Link state is: DISCONNECTED
UPlink
Unproto APW261 via RELAY, WIDE
3Rdparty OFF
8Bitconv ON
AAb
ABaud 110
ACKprior OFF
ACRDisp 0
ACRPack ON
ACRRtty 71
ADelay 4 (40 msec.)
AFilter OFF
ALFDisp OFF
ALFPack OFF
ALFRtty ON
ALTModem 0
ARQTmo 60 (60 sec.)
ARQTOL 3
ARXTor OFF
ASPect 2 (576)
ATxrtty 0 (000 msec.)
AUdelay 2 (20 msec.)
AUTOBaud OFF
AWlen 8
Ax25l2v2 ON
AXDelay 0 (00 msec.)
AXHang 0 (000 msec.)
BBSmsgs OFF
Beacon EVERY 0 (00 sec.)
BItinv $00
BKondel ON
BText !9000.00N/18000.00WZ WinAPRS QRT @211946z
CANline $18 (CTRL-X)
CANPac $19 (CTRL-Y)
CASedisp 0 (as is)
CBell OFF
CFrom all
CHCall OFF
CHDouble OFF
CHeck 30 (300 sec.)
CHSwitch $00
CMdtime 10 (1000 msec.)
CMSg OFF
CODe 0 (International)
COMmand $03 (CTRL-C)
CONMode CONVERSE
CONPerm OFF
CONStamp ON
CPactime OFF
CRAdd OFF
CText
CUstom $0A15
CWid $06 (CTRL-F)
DAYStamp OFF
DCdconn OFF
DELete OFF
DFrom all
DIDdle ON
DWait 16 (160 msec.)
EAS ON
Echo OFF
ERrchar $5F (_)
EScape OFF
FAXNeg OFF
Flow OFF
FRack 8 (8 sec.)
FREe 18536
FRIck 0 (00 msec.)
FSpeed 2 (120)
FUlldup OFF
GENDchar $0D (CTRL-M)
GINIText
GLOCtx 0 (00 sec.)
GNMEA1 $GPGLL
GNMEA2
GPOLLcal none
GPSAuto OFF
GPSMode 0
GREMprog OFF
GSYMchar $00
GUNstart OFF
GRaphics 1 (960 dots)
GUsers 0
HBaud 1200
HEAderln OFF
HEReis $02 (CTRL-B)
HId OFF
HOMebbs none
ILfpack ON
KILONFWD ON
LAstmsg 0
LEftrite ON
LIte OFF
MAildrop OFF
MARsdisp OFF
MAXframe 4
MBEll OFF
MBx none
MCon 6 (seq, P/F + all)
MDigi OFF
MDMon OFF
MDPrompt Subject:/Enter message, ^Z (CTRL-Z) or /EX to end
MFIlter $80
MFrom all
MId 0 (00 sec.)
MMsg OFF
Monitor 6 (seq, P/F + all)
MOPtt ON
MProto OFF
MRpt ON
MSPeed 20
MStamp OFF
MTExt Welcome to my Timewave PK-232M maildrop.
Type H for help.
MTo all
MWeight 10
MXmit ON
MYAlias none
MYALTcal none
MYcall K3MH
MYGate none
MYIdent none
MYMail none
MYPTcall K3MH
MYSelcal none
NAVMsg all
NAVStn all
NEwmode ON
NOmode OFF
NUCr OFF
NULf OFF
NULLs 0
PACLen 128
PACTime AFTER 10 (1000 msec.)
PARity 0 (none)
PASs $16 (CTRL-V)
PASSAll ON
PErsist 63
PPersist ON
PRCon OFF
PRFax ON
PROut OFF
PRType 2
PT200 ON
PTHuff 1
PTOver $1A (CTRL-Z)
PTRound OFF
RBaud 45
RECeive $04 (CTRL-D)
REDispla $12 (CTRL-R)
RELink OFF
RESptime 0 (000 msec.)
REtry 10
RFec ON
RFRame OFF
RXRev OFF
SEndpac $0D (CTRL-M)
SLottime 30 (300 msec.)
SQuelch OFF
SRXall OFF
STArt $11 (CTRL-Q)
STOp $13 (CTRL-S)
TBaud 9600
TDBaud 96
TDChan 0
TIme $14 (CTRL-T)
TMail OFF
TMPrompt GA subj/GA msg, '/EX' to end.
TRACe OFF
TRFlow OFF
TRIes 0
TXdelay 30 (300 msec.)
TXFlow OFF
TXRev OFF
USers 10
USOs OFF
Vhf ON
WHYnot OFF
WIdeshft OFF
WOrdout OFF
WRu OFF
XBaud 0
XFlow OFF
XMITOk ON
XOff $13 (CTRL-S)
XON $11 (CTRL-Q)
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Subject: RE: New option for HF 30M APRS -- TinyTrak 3b (Review)
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@3xf.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:20:31 -0800
X-Message-Number: 9
I've been thinking about implementing this in the OpenTracker as well. It
doesn't use Mic-E, though... if you want a compact position report, use
OpenTRAC. A basic position report is about as compact as Mic-E, but
provides resolution down to a couple of centimeters and it's easy to encode
and decode. You're right, the short packets get through more reliably than
longer ones, even on VHF. When I've got all the tracker features turned on
in dual-protocol mode, I find the local digipeater will sometimes fail to
pick up the APRS packet, but will rarely if ever pick up the APRS packet
and not the OpenTRAC packet. And the OpenTRAC packet carries more data,
with board temperature, battery voltage, and GPS signal quality.
My biggest obstacle to implementing 300 baud is that I don't have anything
to test it with. I have no HF equipment right now, except for a shortwave
receiver. I'm not sure what the standards are, and I'd need a receiver to
test with - haven't tried AGWPE yet. If someone wants to clue me in with
the technical details I'll see what I can do. It should mostly just be a
matter of changing some timing constants in the FSK code.
Some folks at Cal Poly had some ideas for other firmware functions - a
foxhunt CW keyer, for example. I hope to get a good collection of these
programs together and put them on the OpenTracker website
(http://n1vg.net/opentracker). I may even bundle them into the
configuration program - since it's capable of downloading firmware via the
RS-232 cable, you could have a firmware chooser option to pick the
personality of the device - e.g., VHF tracker, HF tracker, CW keyer, DTMF
encoder. That way you wouldn't even have to keep the separate files
around.
FWIW, otconfig.exe is also a standalone executable that doesn't need to be
installed. It's about 72k right now... if I start adding firmware images
that'd probably add another 8k per image. And connector configuration is
identical to the TT3.
Scott
N1VG
-----Original Message-----
For the last several days, I have been beta-testing the next-generation
firmware for the Byonics TinyTrak 3. The major enhancements in this
next version are support for raw NMEA strings, and support for
300-baud/200-Hz-shift HF operation. Only the contents of the PIC chip
have changed; the new version can be inserted as an upgrade into even
the oldest TinyTrak board. [ I did my testing on an original board
from a TinyTrak I! ]
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Subject: RE: HF 30M APRS -- TinyTrak 3b is a couple of years behind TM1+ on
this !!!!
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@3xf.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:30:06 -0800
X-Message-Number: 10
It does look pretty cool, but my main complaint about the TM1+ is the price
- $110. An assembled TT3 is about half that, or $32 for the kit. Not sure
if Byon's changing that for the 3b. My OpenTracker will probably be around
the same price.
What's the deal with TM1+ firmware upgrades? The website says it's
upgradeable because it's got flash memory, but you need to contact them to
schedule an upgrade. Does it have to be done in the factory?
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: Re: New option for HF 30M APRS -- TinyTrak 3b (Review)
From: John Mc Hugh <johnk.mchugh@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 15:35:05 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
Bob, this sounds like a class project for the Academy
John
John Mc Hugh, KU4GY
Coordinator for Amateur Radio
National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org
Robert Bruninga wrote:
>And this is the hardest half of what I have dreamed of
>since 1994. Imagine combining that with a 100W HF
>transmitter that fits in a crackerjax box under your seat
>and hooked to a modified CB whip on the roof.
>
>Rememeber, it only take 5 transistors to make a FSK
>100 Watt HF transmitter and it needs NO heatsink
>because the 100W dutycycle is less than 1%. This
>can fit a relatively tiny box.
>
>And it only needs to be on 10.149.3 MHz, and no
>tuning required. Thus, a blackbox, go anywhere
>in-the-world tracker...
>
>This is great news... Now, who has the time to build
>the Transmitter?--
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