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Subject: Recall: Precision Mapping OCX Error
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:23:47 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5
Dave Sloan would like to recall the message, "Precision Mapping OCX Error".
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Subject: RE: Precision Mapping OCX Error [UPDATE]
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 04:26:37 -0700
X-Message-Number: 6
I just tried to open the Precision Mapping Window again. IT OPENED! I had
made no changes and the only thing I had done was send the below message
asking for assistance! I love WINDOWS!
Tnx & 73
Dave N0EOP
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Subject: Re: SPLIT pl TONES
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:19:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
>>Anyway....I do believe you may be mistaken, Bob. While I know that *most*
>>rigs operate this way, I'm fairly sure that there are some that *can* be set
>>for seperate tones on Xmit & Rcv (or tone on one and not the other) .. but I
>>can't give any examples off the top of my head.
>
>D700 for starters and I believe the F6A too. Don't know why you'd want to
>do that, but I'm sure someone has a good reason.
>
>Sean...
There's a VERY good reason for split PLs.
I volunteer at a Boy Scout camp, and they put up a repeater for their UHF
business radios. But the terrain resulted in poor coverage.
However, they were two sides to the 'valley'. The physical setup was such
that low power FRS radios can work from anywhere on one side to anywhere on
the other. But 5W sometimes has trouble working two places on the same
side.
With split PL, they could have set up two SMALL repeaters. One on each
side of the valley. And set the radios so that there were two 'groups',
one for each side. Then program all the radios so that the PL works the
repeater on the OTHER side of the pond...
Why a 'split' PL? You use three PLs. An east side transmit PL, a west
side transmit PL, and a generic receive PL (so everybody can hear
everybody...)
The added advantage is that now everybody works low power, and batteries
last longer too.
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Subject: Precision Mapping OCX Error [update]
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:46:58 -0700
X-Message-Number: 8
Someday I'll learn to check things before send an email to the list. I am
now getting a window for Precision Mapping but I lose the road detail when
I zoom in (my CD isn't accessed when I zoom in) I know that this problem
has been covered before. I looked in the archived messages but couldn't
find the answer. If someone remembers the resolution I would appreciate
knowing what I need to do!
73,
Dave N0EOP
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Subject: Re: Holiday Traveling = 144.39 CTCSS 100
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:02:12 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 9
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Richard Amirault wrote:
>Hmmm.. isn't that the same thing (CTCSS & PL)?? I think you meant to say
>"...when set to transmit a tone of 100 are also set to receive a tone of
>100"
I use the term CTCSS to refer to the receiving of a tone and PL to refer
to the transmitting of a tone. I guess the way most rigs label it is
actually "CTCSS" and "TONE"... for RX and TX....
>By the way, would this setup stop non-PL tone sigs from being
>received/digied?
You can only use Voice Alert on a rig that has the TNC connected to the
discriminator or audio prior to the CTCSS Squelch circuit... otherwise
your TNC wont hear anything except another local voice alert station.
>Anyway....I do believe you may be mistaken, Bob. While I know that
>*most* rigs operate this way, I'm fairly sure that there are some that
>*can* be set for seperate tones on Xmit & Rcv (or tone on one and not
>the other) .. but I can't give any examples off the top of my head.
Yes, I meant "most" dont....
>>I too would like to monitor at home on CTCSS-100 in the shack to pick up
>>any passers'by, BUT you cannot do this with a PACKET RIG!!!! because
>>all radios when set to CTCSS 100 also set PL to 100.
>(snip)
Anyway, bottom line is that we dont want to hear home station's packets
24/7 transmitting on VOICE ALERT...
de WB4APR, Bob
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Subject: Re: Holiday Traveling = 144.39 CTCSS 100
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:10:52 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 10
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Sean \The RIMBoy\ wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Richard Amirault wrote:
>
>>...While I know that *most* rigs operate this way, I'm fairly sure
>>that there are some that *can* be set for seperate tones on Xmit & Rcv
>>(or tone on one and not the other) ..
>
>D700 for starters.... Don't know why you'd want to
>do that, but I'm sure someone has a good reason.
Actually, the D700's have separate selections for CTCSS and for TONE, but
when you set CTCSS, the TX tone is also enabled. You cannot separate
them.
The reason for wanting to RX with CTCSS but not transmitting tone is what
would solve the problem of home stations who want to listen for Voice
Alert, yet not be transmitting their packets 24/7 on Voice Alert...
Bob, WB4APR
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Subject: Re: Satellite Users Filter on APRS-IS
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:19:57 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 11
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, David and Ann Fraser wrote:
>The problem seems to be that having passed through intermediate steps
>(such as the 'ground station' and a traditional APRS digi), the
>"PCSAT-1*" becomes just a mere "PCSAT-1" in the string of apparent digis
>that the packet took in getting to the Igate.
>
>So, is there any chance of the "*" being left out of ISS/PCSAT parsers?
>(Or am I barking up the wrong tree?)
No, because if you remove the requirement for the *, then you capture
everyone's UPLINK's whether successful or not. THis would make the WEB
page useless for showing successful packets.
The solution is to simply set up an IGate somewhere in the country that
listens to the downlink directly. It only takes one...
Bob
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Subject: RE: Precision Mapping OCX Error [update]
From: "Bill Diaz" <william.diaz@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:30:02 -0600
X-Message-Number: 12
Dave,
Check your WinAprs setup to see if you have correctly specified the drive
containing the Pmapxx\States directory and data. If this drive is not
available etc, street detail will not appear.
Bill KC9XG
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bounce-aprssig-28856@lists.tapr.org
>[mailto:bounce-aprssig-28856@lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sloan
>Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 06:47
>To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group
>Subject: [aprssig] Precision Mapping OCX Error [update]
>Someday I'll learn to check things before send an email to the
>list. I am
>now getting a window for Precision Mapping but I lose the road
>detail when I
>zoom in (my CD isn't accessed when I zoom in) I know that this
>problem has
>been covered before. I looked in the archived messages but
>couldn't find the
>answer. If someone remembers the resolution I would appreciate
>knowing what
>I need to do!
>
>73,
>Dave N0EOP
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Subject: Building (rebuilding) tracker
From: "Ken Cechura" <kcechura@umr.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:30:05 -0600
X-Message-Number: 13
Well, the APRS bug hit me again. I want to put a tracker back in my truck.
Going to AES Monday.
Here's the situation:
-I already have a KPC3+
-I can't afford a D700.
-FT1500's are on closeout
-they have (had) a used IC2100
-I would LIKE the radio to be (if not hidden) mounted in the back of my
truck
--thus I need something that can either auto-power-on or just be left on,
and have it turned on and off via relay... So a hard power switch,
not a softkey I have no real reason to beacon when the truck isn't
running... Im thinking along the lines of wiring a relay to the ignition,
so whenever the truck is running, the tracker will be operational.
-I have given up on /\/\ or GE commercial gear for now.... My time is worth
money, and I just don't have the time to try and retune a commercial rig, I
don't have SPACE for a syntor or rangr, and with all these 2M only rigs
cheap, I figgure this is an easier way to go.
-I would LIKE the radio I install to be PC programmable, since it will also
serve as an "in a pinch" voice rig (in Rolla, we do things like Rally
communications, so in those cases, I could put in the rally freqs as a
backup...)
Ideas, comments, etc?
Thanks
Ken, KC9UMR
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Subject: Re: Building (rebuilding) tracker
From: "Bruce Martin, KQ4TV" <aprssig@almostanywhere.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:52:29 -0600
X-Message-Number: 14
I haven't used the IC2100 but use the FT1500 in several digipeater
projects. They work great. While they look like a soft key on off
switch it acts like a hard key. When power returns, it comes right back
on where you left it. It also has a lock feature that I like so I set
all the settings, turn the lock on and then accidental button pushes
don't mess anything up. It uses a standard 6-pin mini-din plug for the
tnc connection that is not affected by the volume/squelch dial on the
radio.
Plus, with the FT1500M going for $xxx it's hard to beat.
GL,
Bruce, KQ4TV
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