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Subject: Re: APRSdos floppy
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@opentrac.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:37:23 -0800
X-Message-Number: 19
How about an Xbox release? Might inspire a whole new generation of young
hams. =]
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Subject: Re: APRSdos floppy?
From: "J. Lance Cotton" <joe@lightningflash.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:37:20 -0600
X-Message-Number: 20
wa6ylb@theworks.com wrote:
>Of course, this would certainly be a moot point *IF* aprsdos converted to
>sending/receiving to the TNC in KISS mode.
I would like to see APRSdos support KISS mode on TNCs. I keep all of my TNCs
in KISS mode at 9600bps so I can swap them to all the computers that might
run APRS. I currently run Xastir on Linux, but it would be great to be able
to grab a TNC and an old laptop and run with it.
-Lance
--
J. Lance Cotton, KJ5O
http://map.findu.com/kj5o-14
joe@lightningflash.net
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Subject: RE: who is aprs-1 igate sender
From: "Phil Pacier, AD6NH" <ad6nh@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:39:36
X-Message-Number: 21
On 11/21/03, ""Sean \\The RIMBoy\\" <sean@rimboy.com>" wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Phil Pacier, AD6NH wrote:
>
>>There are major problems with the aprsD APRS-1 server at the moment. If
>>you look at http://first.aprs.net:14501 you will see that NO users
>>connected are verified.
>
>Funny, cause first.nashvilleaprs.net (KG4NRC) thinks it's verified.
That's probably the case, but the issue was mainly to address the
Un-Verified messages that that server is sending. I would be willing to
guess that the same trigger for those messages is also causing the status
page to show connections as being unverified.
>The other thing I found interesting was this:
>
>aprsd 2.2.6-2
>
>Dale's page for aprsd shows 2.1.5b10 as the current version.
First has been funning a 2.2.5 version of aprsD for well over a year now -
in the most recent months it's been 2.2.5-15. I notice quite a few aprsD
users are now running various 2.2.5 versions. I don't use aprsD software,
so I can't comment beyond that obvious that I have noticed.
>Now, the question becomes, disconnect from first and connect to one of the
>others?
The Tier 2 servers have had first removed from their lists for some time
now - in fact, when first initially tried to go to version 2.2.6, we made
the decision to not connect to first. The other cores use javAPRSSrvr,
which has been PROVEN to work beyond a reasonable doubt.
73
Phillip Pacier - AD6NH
http://www.aprsca.net
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Subject: Re: APRSdos floppy?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:51:33 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 22
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, J. Lance Cotton wrote:
>I would like to see APRSdos support KISS mode on TNCs. I keep all of my TNCs
>in KISS mode at 9600bps so I can swap them to all the computers that might
>run APRS. I currently run Xastir on Linux, but it would be great to be able
>to grab a TNC and an old laptop and run with it.
Does KISS mode work perfectly with the Kenwoods in the APRS application.
I know there are problems with using KISS mode in them for other packet
applicaitons that need high throughput and binary applications, but in
single-packet at a time UI stuff for APRS, are there any known problems?
Bob
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Subject: Re: APRSdos floppy?
From: Randy Allen - KA0AZS <ka0azs@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:17:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
X-Message-Number: 23
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Mostly the OPS-DIGI list and its overhead. Remember the OPS digi list
allows you to change your outgoing path on the fly with just a 2-key
shortcut to any of 15 different paths.
I doubt anyone really used that stuff anymore... I dont...
*****
Actually, I use this feature all the time with my home station. I rotate
among the local Digis (DIGICALL,Wide2-2) so that if one goes down, I'm
getting something out part of the time. Also have some pre-programmed
paths for events such as Hamvention (DIGICALL ONLY) and for ARES
activations.
Will have to double check, but I believe that my TNC is picking up the path
changes (MFJ1270C), at least the comebacks on my packets seem to reflect
it.
But for a "come as you are" ARES activation and Public Service Events, I'd
be using a generic path anyway, so this feautre would not be neccessary for
the Floppy version.
73
Randy Allen, KA0AZS
EC, Montgomery County OH
www.qsl.net/ohd3ares
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Subject: RE: who is aprs-1 igate sender
From: "Sean \\The RIMBoy\\" <sean@rimboy.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:02:56 -0600 (CST)
X-Message-Number: 24
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Phil Pacier, AD6NH wrote:
>That's probably the case, but the issue was mainly to address the
>Un-Verified messages that that server is sending. I would be willing to
>guess that the same trigger for those messages is also causing the status
>page to show connections as being unverified.
Sounds reasonable enough. I'm trying to determine if a WinAPRS user
that's been connected to first.nashvilleaprs.net was seeing those messages
since first.nashvilleaprs.net was connected to first.aprs.net (yes, we're
thinking about renaming our servers to something better like bna1, bna2).
>First has been funning a 2.2.5 version of aprsD for well over a year now -
>in the most recent months it's been 2.2.5-15. I notice quite a few aprsD
>users are now running various 2.2.5 versions. I don't use aprsD software,
>so I can't comment beyond that obvious that I have noticed.
Aha! I did not realize it had a Sourceforge page now.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aprsd/
>The Tier 2 servers have had first removed from their lists for some time
>now - in fact, when first initially tried to go to version 2.2.6, we made
>the decision to not connect to first. The other cores use javAPRSSrvr,
>which has been PROVEN to work beyond a reasonable doubt.
Let's not start a flame war over this. Some of us choose to use aprsd
because it has worked well in the past and provided they get these latest
?bugs? fixed will probably continue to work well. I've had good uptimes
with the (now very old) version of aprsd I've been running.
I've tried installing Sun Java stuff and their installer stinks.
Besides, I don't forsee a the java stuff fitting onto a floppy anytime
soon and deploying linux based igates that can run off a floppy is one of
my projects. (apropos given Bob's thread about putting together an
APRSdos floppy). Note, the nashvilleaprs.net servers are running on full
installs with harddrives.
I went ahead and promoted fouth.aprs.net to the top of my hub list since
it's sitting on an I2 connection (as does first.aprs.net) and
first.nashvilleaprs.net has I2 connection capabilities.
Sean...
--
The punk rock will get you if the government don't get you first.
--Old 97's
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Subject: Re: APRSdos floppy? (KISS support??)
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:40:37 EST
X-Message-Number: 25
In a message dated 11/21/2003 10:00:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
bruninga@usna.edu writes:
>Does KISS mode work perfectly with the Kenwoods in the APRS application.
>I know there are problems with using KISS mode in them for other packet
>applicaitons that need high throughput and binary applications, but in
>single-packet at a time UI stuff for APRS, are there any known problems?
It works fine --BUT-- in KISS mode you lose the GPS feedthrough function
(that echos data received at the dedicated GPS port out the main data port
of the Kenwoods) .
You will need a second serial port on the PC to connect the GPS (if used)
directly.
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: Re: APRSdos floppy?
From: Bill Vodall - WA7NWP <wa7nwp@jnos.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:48:21 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 26
>On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, J. Lance Cotton wrote:
>
>>I would like to see APRSdos support KISS mode on TNCs. I keep all of my TNCs
>>in KISS mode at 9600bps so I can swap them to all the computers that might
>>run APRS. I currently run Xastir on Linux, but it would be great to be able
>>to grab a TNC and an old laptop and run with it.
APRSdos with KISS will be very useful. That would make it trivial to run
along with other applications and not have to deal with the various TNC
incarnations.
I'd still like to have the old presentation scripting options. It was great
to have APRSDOS running through various displays automatically. I had it
on one channel on the TV and I could "surf" over and watch as APRSDOS
cycled through its displays.
73,
Bill - WA7NWP
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