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Subject: Re: APRS PERL Question
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:05:54 -0500
X-Message-Number: 13
Can Perl send Hex characters? Send 03 hex
Robbie, wa9inf
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Subject: Re: APRS Uses Was: Abusive Digi id paths
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:12:39 -0500
X-Message-Number: 14
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M. Schneider [mailto:msokla@brightok.net]
>Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:41 AM
>Subject: [aprssig] Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone
>contact this guy?
>
>And don't tell me there won't be confusion over locations during a
>widespread emergency. I've heard it. You should have heard
>some of the
>radio traffic on law enforcement/public safety frequencies in
>the Oklahoma
>City area the night of May 9th. Our local FD ambulances, RESCUE unit,
>paramedics and battalion chiefs have started carrying GPS
>units so they can
>provide accurate locations. APRS is a step better for us hams.
Good point, Mark. One of the biggest communication problems I remember
after the F5 tornado cut across southern OKC was the fact that all the
street signs were gone. An active APRS group would have helped
immensely during the clean-up operations, I am sure (and may have).
We also use APRS positioning as verification of position for many of our
spotters during SKYWARN events. And, of course, positioning is used
extensively during non-emergency public service events.
73,
Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net
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Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:36:03 -0700
X-Message-Number: 15
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daron J. Wilson" <daron@wilson.org>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:20 PM
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this
guy?
>>Let me ask again -- what purpose do nodes serve in a network that
>>is all UNCONNECTED packets???
>
>Newton's Telecom Dictionary defines a node as " A point of connection
>into a network." The purpose a node serves is as an access point into
>the network.
>
>Once again, a node is a point of connection to the network, and as such,
>a place to access the network.
What are being called nodes, are actually DIGI's in mode cases. I see on
my map 12 nodes in my surrounding area. They are all DIGI's as they do not
have any 'network' interface what-so-ever!
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:48:01 -0700
X-Message-Number: 16
From: "M. Schneider" <msokla@brightok.net>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this
guy?
>Comment below:
>
>>
>>Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
>>From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
>>Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:27:00 -0700
>>
>>Jim, WA6OFT
>>
>
>How about this scenario:
>
>(EOC frequency) "165 to EOC, I'm 5 west of 170 on Lake Rd.
snip!
That is a great example. Voice traffic where it needs to be and tactical
APRS traffic at the same time!
Sure glad you did not try to abuse APRS trying to send the voice traffic
over APRS!!!!
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: Re: APRS PERL Question
From: James Washer <washer@trlp.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 06:05:55 -0700
X-Message-Number: 17
print tnc "\cC"
\cX where is the the ctrl'd letter you want to send
or you can use \003 notation
- jim
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Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 06:57:45 -0600
X-Message-Number: 18
At 05:36 AM 9/16/2003 -0700, Spider wrote:
><snip>
>What are being called nodes, are actually DIGI's in mode cases. I see on
>my map 12 nodes in my surrounding area. They are all DIGI's as they do not
>have any 'network' interface what-so-ever!
Here's something to look at -- I connected to the KPC-3 in my truck and got
a node listing. I suspect you might get similar results anywhere in the
country. I think two things are happening. First, people are say9ng
"node" when they mean "digi". But second, I think there are quite a few
nodes out there, too.
>cmd:c truck
>*** CONNECTED to TRUCK
>###CONNECTED TO NODE TRUCK(KD5XB-10) CHANNEL A
>ENTER COMMAND: B,C,J,N, or Help ?
>N L
>W4EBM-7* (N7UG-1) 06/20/03 07:28:01
> VIA *N4WYK-2,WIDE4-1
>WIDE4* (W4UNC) 06/20/03 10:42:38
> VIA K4EG,WX4GSO-9,*N4VDE-3
>RELAY* (N4EVA-13) 06/20/03 10:56:39
> VIA WIDE,KA4KMA-5,*N4VDE-3
>GIU7* (WAdGIU) 06/20/03 18:01:26
> VIA W4AP-8,*AB4KN-2,WIDE5-2
>REO1IN* (KB9EMW) 06/21/03 05:01:23
> VIA *AA9MM-10,WIDE4
>GIU7 (WA4GIU) 06/21/03 06:09:18
> VIA WIDE5-2
>N5SKU-7* (N5SKU) 06/23/03 05:35:00
> VIA *K5QBM-2,WIDE3
>FTKTEL* (KD5FTK) 06/23/03 05:54:16
> VIA K5WH-2,*WR5AAA-6,WIDE
>RELAY* (W5RRR-7) 06/23/03 06:39:34
> VIA AI5TX-2,*WR5AAA-6
>*W5PDO-7* (W5PDO-1) 06/26/03 01:13:56
> VIA W5DIG-4,*W5DIG-12
>RELAY (W5GB-2) 06/27/03 02:53:03
> VIA WIDE4
>ENTER COMMAND: B,C,J,N, or Help ?
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Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 06:15:34 -0700
X-Message-Number: 19
>>>Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
>>>From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
>>>Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:27:00 -0700
>>>
>>>Jim, WA6OFT
>>>
>>
>>How about this scenario:
>>
>>(EOC frequency) "165 to EOC, I'm 5 west of 170 on Lake Rd.
>
>snip!
>
>That is a great example. Voice traffic where it needs to be and tactical
>APRS traffic at the same time!
>Sure glad you did not try to abuse APRS trying to send the voice traffic
>over APRS!!!!
>
>Jim, WA6OFT
So....
We have:
Weather Stations
Gaging Stations
Resource Tracking
What else can APRS tactical communications provide?
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: WiFi at DCC
From: "Jason Rausch" <ke4nyv@hamhud.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 8:24:33
X-Message-Number: 20
Does anyone know if there are plans to have some kind of WiFi network
connection and/or router setup at DCC for wireless access to the internet?
Jason KE4NYV
www.ke4nyv.com
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Subject: Re: What else can APRS provide? (Was Abusive Digi id paths)
From: "Jack R. Smith" <jack.smith2@us.army.mil>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:53:13 -0500
X-Message-Number: 21
I use it for keeping track of vehicles such as the Red Cross ERV (by dumb
tracker or objects).
Objects for important sites such as shelters, EOC, functional gas stations,
etc.
Also add info to the Beacon Text such as beds open (Shelter), diesel
availability (Fuel Station),
SMS for ONLY info that needs to be logged, such as the above info plus
anything of importance.
Road closures, downed trees, etc.
Incidentally, none of this type of stuff should be gated to the net in my
opinion, and the paths should be kept short enough to cover just the
affected area.
The visual aspect of APRS makes it a wonderful tool for emergency
management. I just wish I was a little more knowledgeable on some of the
things it can do. I'd like to be able to draw polygons to show affected
areas of tornadoes, floods, chemical emergencies, etc.
Shoot, I'd be more inclined to ask "What can APRS _NOT_ do?"! In all the
courses I've been taking on Emergency Management, I keep telling myself
"APRS can do that!"
73 de Jack KE4LWT
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Subject: Re: Abusive Digi id paths Was: Can someone contact this guy?
From: "Daron J. Wilson" <daron@wilson.org>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:09:07 -0700
X-Message-Number: 22
>>Newton's Telecom Dictionary defines a node as " A point of connection
>>into a network." The purpose a node serves is as an access point into
>>the network.
>>
>>Once again, a node is a point of connection to the network, and as such,
>>a place to access the network.
>>
>
>What are being called nodes, are actually DIGI's in mode cases. I see on
>my map 12 nodes in my surrounding area. They are all DIGI's as they do not
>have any 'network' interface what-so-ever!
OK spider (is that your 'handle?'), A network ties things together. It
is an organized grouping of resources. APRS stations form a network.
Always happy to shed some light, if you have any other definitions I can
look up or provide for ya, drop me a note.
I'm off to go install a NODE for Nextel on their NETWORK.
73
N7HQR
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