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Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #411
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Psk31 Digest Friday, June 2 2000 Volume 01 : Number 411
In this issue:
Re: [psk31] re: sliding down the band in a QSO - Digipan
[psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Re: [psk31] Re: Wow!
[psk31] PSK31 for the visually impaired
Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Re: [psk31] New soft
Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
[psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
[psk31] PSK on other bands?
[psk31] Possible Zakanaka bug
Re: [psk31] PSK on other bands?
[psk31] PSK on other bands? PSK Sprint Contests
[psk31] 30 meters tonight !!
Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Re: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
Re: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Re: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
Re: [psk31] re: sliding down the band in a QSO - Digipan
Re: [psk31] re: sliding down the band in a QSO - Digipan
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:52:13 -0600
From: "Gary McDuffie, Sr." <mcduffie@scottsbluff.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] re: sliding down the band in a QSO - Digipan
On Wed, 31 May 2000 07:19:26 EDT, Charles R Greene wrote:
> If you notice the drift
> and are reasonably sure it is not you, turn off your
> net function.
This has been argued before. The problem with doing this is that it
kills it for those who are SWLing, or just monitoring the QSO for
something to do. You end up on two different freqs. At least if you
both move up or down the band together, those who are listening in don't
have to keep tuning back and forth. They can continue with whatever
else they were doing in the shack.
gm
ag0n at arrl dot net
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:22:49 PDT
From: axeco@juno.com
Subject: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Hi pskers,
This is my first post to the list but have been reading the mail for a
week. I just had to add my 2 bits worth to AC5CV's comment.
John, I agree what you describe would be neat, but how about someone with
good eyes and a steady hand coming up with a little qrp PSK31 station
with a keyboard the size of one of those pocket electronic spell checkers
or foreign language translators? The up down keys on the keyboard could
be used for tuning. Tuning range could be like the Small Wonder PSK-20. A
scrolling 3 or 4 by 20 or 24 character LCD could be used for the text
with maybe a couple of dedicated character spaces on the LCD for a tuning
indicator. The BNC connector for the antenna lead would look large by
comparison.
Darn, I'd need a magnifying glass to view to keyboard. But what a neat
thing to toss in your carry-on bag for a trip.
72 de dave W7AGJ
On Wed, 31 May 2000 17:19:17 -0500 John Chamberlain <chamber@cord.org>
writes:
>There may be no Palm Pilot (or other handheld) software now. With the
new
>PSK QRP rigs, I would sure like to see some. Or at least some WindowsCE
>versions of DigiPan, for example. I have a friend with a Casio WindowsCE
etc etc
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:25:08 +0300
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Zolt=E1n_Bord=E1s?= <borzol@sbelektronik.alphanet.ro>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: Wow!
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard B Drake" <rbdrake@erols.com>
To: <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: 31 mai 2000 17:31
Subject: RE: [psk31] Re: Wow!
>Just stay away from the occasional commercial
> RTTY and it's great. So, I feel that if we can drum up more
> activity on 30, that's our best bet.
>
> ---
> 73, Rich - W3ZJ
Here 30m is VERY QRM, full with RTTY, etc. But I'd like to make some QSOs in
PSK31 or even Hell - no contacts in digital modes on this band yet.
Maybe the most chances could be around 04.00 UTC when I can be QRV.
73 de Zoli / YO5CRQ
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 00:09:57 PDT
From: "Jim Hyatt" <k4jdh@hotmail.com>
Subject: [psk31] PSK31 for the visually impaired
Are any visually impaired hams using PSK31? If so, I urgently need specific
set-up information, i.e. software, computer config and so on.
Jim Hyatt
K4JDH
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:05:46 +1000
From: "Graeme Zimmer" <gzimmer@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Greetings all,
> John, I agree what you describe would be neat, but how about someone with
> good eyes and a steady hand coming up with a little qrp PSK31 station
Well, I have neither atribute, but I have almost completed a little
standalone PSK31 TRX using a PIC micro.
My latest on air tests show that my current PSK31 decoder is working at
least as well as the various PC software.
my web page is way behind at present, but I'll try to catch up this
weekend....
It's at http://www.users.bigpond.com/gzimmer/
73's ................ Zim ................ VK3GJZ
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:04:36 +0200
From: Eduardo Jacob <jtpjatae@bi.ehu.es>
Subject: Re: [psk31] New soft
At 21:59 31/05/00, you wrote:
>I went to the site listed below, and it had ver 1.2, so it said.
>Where is Ver 2.0?
Something is not working on your side... perhaps the cache of your
provider, or your own cache. The files are there, I put it before posting
the message. There is also a pointer to the new Moe's Homepage.
Eduardo
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:06:40 +0200
From: Eduardo Jacob <jtpjatae@bi.ehu.es>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
>THERE IS NO PALM PILOT PSK31!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry had to get that out of my
>system.
Well, you could hook a PTC-II to a Palm and use there a terminal
program... but that wouln't really be PSK31 on a Palm ;-)
Eduardo/EA2BAJ
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:02:57 -0400
From: Howard Teller <hteller@home.com>
Subject: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
ANNOUNCING THE RELEASE OF DIGIPAN 1.2
The third release of DigiPan, Version 1.2, is now available at
http://members.home.com/hteller/digipan.
Version 1.2 adds Scan, brings back Markers, supports up to nine serial
ports for PTT, right-click on the status bar for an abbreviated Options
menu, several new macros, editing of the log file, and hopefully
corrects the intermittent problem of the disappearing mouse cursor.
The installation program for this third release of Digipan is
digipan3.exe, and the version number is DigiPan version 1.2.
73, Skip KH6TY
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 06:36:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carl Hyde <cshyde@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
I've been using my old Palm Pilot Pro for APRS for
about a year. I use a Delorm GPS receiver, an old
radio shack 202 tranceiver wired into the truck and a
KPC-3. Works as a digipeater and I can locate all
other units with the maps function on the palm. It
wouldn't be much of a stretch to write PSK-31 for the
Palm since it uses a RISC chip and has a much better
operating system than MicroCrap CE. I just got a Palm
IIIc Color unit but I'm not ready to modify it while
its still under warranty. There is a folding keyboard
available for it and the color is pretty nice. Hmmmmm
wonder if theres a new compiler available???
- --- axeco@juno.com wrote:
> Hi pskers,
>
=====
Carl HYDE
W2CSH
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:37:08 -0400
From: "Bob Lewis" <aa4pb@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
One of the things to watch out for on the small computers, even if they run
Windows, is that the sound systems often have no external connections. They
run only with internal mikes and speakers. I have a small e-lite that would
be perfect for PSK31 - runs the software fine, *but* no way to interface it
to the rig short of butchering it.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:58:11 -0600
From: Peter King <peter@phys.ucalgary.ca>
Subject: [psk31] PSK on other bands?
About PSK31 band usage...
Been wondering why everybody is using the 20m band and nothing else. I have
listened and called and called on the other bands till I'm blue in the
keyboard, but seem to be nearly all alone.
The other bands aren't necessarily empty due to lack of propagation. PSK31
enthusiasts could use this list (or another), to organize emphasis on this or that band. You could orchestrate a concentrated effort on say, 30m, on a
particular evening, etc. We could move around the bands this way, and establish
greater presence.
Any takers?
regards, Peter (VE6EPK)
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:11:30 +0000
From: Peter Martinez <Peter.Martinez@btinternet.com>
Subject: [psk31] Possible Zakanaka bug
From Peter G3PLX
I have noticed several stations using the new Zakanaka program that
are transmitting an upper-case slashed-O instead of the numeral zero.
We had this problem a couple of years ago and at that time it was
agreed by all PSK31 programmers that all transmissions should
transmit the ASCII numeral zero, and if individual users wanted to
see a slashed-O in place of a numeral zero on-screen, there would be
an option in the program to modify the received text. I suspect that
Zakanaka may be getting this wrong by providing an option which
modifies both received and transmitted text instead of only the
received text.
Could anyone reading this who has Zakanaka, which I think is still in
beta-test version, please check what it's doing and feed back the
problem to the author.
The problem with transmitting an upper-case slashed-O is that it will
confuse some PSK31 users, specifically Norwegian and Swedish users
where the slashed-O is part of the alphabet, and also operators in
certain countries where dual alphabets are used in Windows-based
computers, such as Russian and Japanese users who will not see a
displayed slashed-O at all but a Cyrillic or kata-kana symbol. By
making the slashed-O an option on receive only, everyone transmits
the correct ASCII code to represent the numeral zero and those that
prefer to see their zeros as slashed-O's can choose to do so without
inflicting them on the rest of the world.
73
Peter
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 16:06:12 -0400
From: "Larry Van Horn (Monitoring Times)" <larry@grove-ent.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] PSK on other bands?
> The other bands aren't necessarily empty due to lack of propagation. PSK31
> enthusiasts could use this list (or another), to organize emphasis on this
or that band. You could orchestrate a > concentrated effort on say, 30m, on
a particular evening, etc. We could move around the bands this way, and >
establish greater presence.
> Any takers?
Absolutely Peter. I am waiting anxiously to make my first 80/40 (this
northern fall/winter) and 30/17/15/12 mtr PSK31 contacts. I have worked stns
on both 20 and 10 and have called and called and called on the others on
several occasions. Why don't we pick an evening like during the week (not to
interfere with family, social events, contest calendars and the like that
occur on weekends) to have a night on a particular band with the PSK31 boys,
you know a PSK31 boys night out on whatever band. Sorta like a net concept
but confining that to a band instead on a frequency.
My feeling is since we have gone to the trouble to establish and publish a
PSK freq on each band, if we don't use it (like the SSTV boys do 14230 or
our activity around 14070, etc), we will never get others use to hearing our
warbles on these freqs. We need to be more vocal about this or be prepared
to end up with more Lids ARQ idling on or near our established PSK freqs. It
will come to a head when it comes time to use these freqs during contest
when we want and need to spread out. It will be difficult at best if we
haven't been on them before on a regular basis.
I'm not saying we will be trouble free mind you if we do this (look at the
trouble WA3NAN has on their long established HF freqs when the shuttle goes
up), but we have to start somewhere and we are definitely winning the
strength in numbers game right now. Not a night doesn't go by I don't see
someone handing out another's first contact on PSK31. ;-)
I'm game. I'll be on 30 meters starting at 0001 UTC 3 June (Friday evening
EDT) and looking for some PSK31 action around 10140+/-. Any takers to be my
first contact on 30 mtrs (oh yea you must be willing to QSL that contact as
well, after all I am a DX hound working on DXCC/WAS for PSK31). And yes
Peter I do not have VE verified yet on PSK. ;-)
73 all,
Larry Van Horn
N5FPW/NNN0JVP: Member-ARRL/Navy-MC MARS/10-10 Intl/Triode ARC
Monitoring Times Magazine - Grove Enterprises Publisher, Brasstown, NC
MT Assistant Editor-Fed File/Milcom/Scan Logs/Service Search Columnist
V-828-837-9200/F-828-837-2216/800-438-8155, http://www.grove-ent.com
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Peter King <peter@phys.ucalgary.ca>
To: <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:58 PM
Subject: [psk31] PSK on other bands?
>
>
> About PSK31 band usage...
>
> Been wondering why everybody is using the 20m band and nothing else. I
have
> listened and called and called on the other bands till I'm blue in the
> keyboard, but seem to be nearly all alone.
>
> The other bands aren't necessarily empty due to lack of propagation. PSK31
> enthusiasts could use this list (or another), to organize emphasis on this
or that band. You could orchestrate a concentrated effort on say, 30m, on a
> particular evening, etc. We could move around the bands this way, and
establish
> greater presence.
> Any takers?
>
>
>
> regards, Peter (VE6EPK)
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:32:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: michael watts <wy6k@yahoo.com>
Subject: [psk31] PSK on other bands? PSK Sprint Contests
How about we have a series of "Summer PSK31 Sprint
Contests". One band per evening. One contest per
week (or two). Each one would run four or six hours.
Similar to the ARRL VHF sprint contests.
Then we could do it again in the Fall.
I would be willing to sponsor it. That means I would
tally the logs, award certificates and help publicize
it.
Any interest?
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:32:49 -0700
From: "Joe Cotignola" <joecot@superlink.net>
Subject: [psk31] 30 meters tonight !!
I for one will be on PSK31 on 10.140 tonight , June 1, 2000 at 2000 EST..
Joe WR2B
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:41:03 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
Dear Bob Lewis and fellow warblers:
Don't forget acoustic coupling - it's ground loop free, costs next to nothing,
no hum, and no echoes, if you do it correctly.
73 de Bob Lay, w9dmk@arrl.net, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Lewis <aa4pb@erols.com>
To: <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
> One of the things to watch out for on the small computers, even if they run
> Windows, is that the sound systems often have no external connections. They
> run only with internal mikes and speakers. I have a small e-lite that would
> be perfect for PSK31 - runs the software fine, *but* no way to interface it
> to the rig short of butchering it.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 16:28:16 -0500
From: "Thomas Webb" <tmwebb@ionet.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
Downloaded Ver 1.2 without incident. Intalled without incident. Launched
and got an error message saying I didn't have a sound card. Clicked OK and
it locks up the computer. The previous versions of DigiPan worked without
problems.
Tom Webb, WA9AFM/5
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Teller <hteller@home.com>
To: PSK31 list <psk31@egroups.com>; PSK31list <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>;
<mixw@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:02 AM
Subject: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
> ANNOUNCING THE RELEASE OF DIGIPAN 1.2
>
> The third release of DigiPan, Version 1.2, is now available at
> http://members.home.com/hteller/digipan.
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:52:21 EDT
From: K2hto@aol.com
Subject: Re: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
I downloaded DigiPan V1.2 also and installed it. I do not notice any
differences from VVersion 1.1 (the 2nd release). I had the bookmarks in the
previous version, also the same amount of macros. Seems like the exact same
program with a different version number. Am I missing something? Otherwise
it works fine and still never noticed a missing cursor. I believe Zakanaka
had that problem, not DigiPan.
73, Marty K2HTO
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:21:09 -0400
From: "Bob Lewis" <aa4pb@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Re: [PSK31] PTT circuits and Palm Pilots
> Don't forget acoustic coupling - it's ground loop free, costs
> next to nothing, no hum, and no echoes, if you do it correctly.
I thought about that but was concerned about the Tx side picking up
other sounds. I guess if a small mike were placed right over the
speaker. Magnetic pickup from the speaker might be a possibility as
well.
About a week ago I had been playing with the little lap top and left
it running on DigiPan. I had tuned in a PSK signal on the big rig.
Looked over at the laptop and it had perfect copy via the internal
mike.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:27:03 -0400
From: "Bob Lewis" <aa4pb@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Announcing the Release of DigiPan 1.2
I've installed DigiPan on a couple of computers with no problems. The
sometimes missing cursor problem seems to be fixed with this version.
I thought I had a Tx problem tonight when I couldn't hear any output
thru the speakers (only a click when I went to Tx) - then I realized
the cursor was setting at zero. My ears don't hear zero Hz very well.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:18:19 EDT
From: Charles R Greene <cgreene7@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] re: sliding down the band in a QSO - Digipan
On Wed, 31 May 2000 21:52:13 -0600 "Gary McDuffie, Sr."
<mcduffie@scottsbluff.net> writes:
> On Wed, 31 May 2000 07:19:26 EDT, Charles R Greene wrote:
>
> > If you notice the drift
> > and are reasonably sure it is not you, turn off your
> > net function.
>
> This has been argued before. The problem with doing this is that it
> kills it for those who are SWLing, or just monitoring the QSO for
> something to do. You end up on two different freqs.
That's not right. If both of you have net off, you will end up on two
frequencies. If only one, as I suggested, you will end up on one
frequency.
The SWLer isn't important anyway, even if you did. It's just a question
of occupying too much bandwidth. If both of you keep net on, you may
drift into another QSO. As I said, that's not polite either.
At least if you
> both move up or down the band together, those who are listening in
> don't
> have to keep tuning back and forth. They can continue with whatever
> else they were doing in the shack.
>
>
Charles Greene
Amateur Call W1CG
Bristol, RI
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:43:37 -0600
From: "Gary McDuffie, Sr." <mcduffie@scottsbluff.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] re: sliding down the band in a QSO - Digipan
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:18:19 EDT, Charles R Greene wrote:
> The SWLer isn't important anyway,
I strongly disagree with this. There is much more SWLing going on than
operating in most cases. Why make it hard for people to monitor what is
going on?
Gary
ag0n at arrl dot net
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