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Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #354
Fecha: domingo 2 de abril de 2000 4:12
Psk31 Digest Sunday, April 2 2000 Volume 01 : Number 354
In this issue:
Re: [psk31] signals
[psk31] signals
Re: [psk31] signals
Re: [psk31] signals
Re: [psk31] signals
Re: [psk31] WinPSKse
[psk31] PSK with FT101ZD
[psk31] psk signals
RE: [psk31] psk signals
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:03:35 -0500
From: Harvey Fisher <harvee1@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] signals
HI,
ARE YOU SAYING THAT BY YOUR TURNING DOWN YOUR VOLUME ON YOUR TRANSCVR., THE
BAD SIGNALS WERE NO LONGER BAD AND NO LONGER APPEARED THAT WAY?
I GUESS MY PROBLEM WOULD THEN BE TO;
1. REDUCE MY TRANSCVR. VOL.
2. DON'T USE THREE OTHER PROGRAMS TO CHECK
3. STOP USING A SCOPE.
4. DON'T LISTEN TO THE SIGNALS ON MY SPEAKER AT ALL TO HEAR THE DISTORTION
5 THESE AND PERHAPS ONE OR TWO OTHERS WILL CURE THEIR OVERDRIVE?
WOW!, THAT'S SO EASY. I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THOSE SOLUTIONS AND ALL MY
DISAPPOINTMENT WOLD GO AWAY. WOW!
73 ALL
HARVEY
K2CJP
Gordon Carlson wrote:
>
> HI to all
> Recent postings about bad signals, wide, distorted, extra sidebands
> showing etc.
> I know this has been talked about many times before, but did bring back
> something I seen a little while ago, one station told three others in a row
> they were very wide.. when on my display they looked good and imd's were
> decent and I wondered why the difference.
> A little while later I seen two or three very light traces on my screen
> and turned up my receive to get a better trace, just then a strong station
> came on he looked very wide an nasty all over the place, when I turned my
> receive back down this station now looked very good on display, and the
> faint ones were now back to being
> faint.
> If I would have told that station he was overdriving, had extra sidebands
> all over, he would of rebuffed me
> and for good reason, I was the one that was at fault for his bad looking
> signal.
> I would say that any one can make most signals look bad just by playing
> with the receive on rig.
> So before you play pskcop or just really want to try and help someone,
> look and make sure YOU ARE RIGHT FIRST, then help them,
> I try to be a good operator, but would of made myself look bad and got
> some one mad at me, for something that was my own fault.
>
> Thanks for listening
> wn0i Gordon
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:19:22 -0600
From: "Gordon Carlson" <gcarlson@smig.net>
Subject: [psk31] signals
Harry
all I am saying is that by having the receive from the rig high you can
make them appear very bad on the display, try it once.
But seeing as you use 3 programs and a scope to check them out I guess you
should be the one to tell them then...
Gordon
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:16:28 -0500
From: "Bob Lewis" <aa4pb@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] signals
You're exactly right. Distortion can be introduced anywhere in the
signal chain and that includes the receiver. With signals S5 or
better, I find a significant change in IMD due to receiver AGC action.
Slow AGC gives much better IMD readings than fast AGC on my IC-761.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Carlson <gcarlson@smig.net>
To: psk <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 8:31 PM
Subject: [psk31] signals
> HI to all
> Recent postings about bad signals, wide, distorted, extra
sidebands
> showing etc.
> I know this has been talked about many times before, but did
bring back
> something I seen a little while ago, one station told three others
in a row
> they were very wide.. when on my display they looked good and imd's
were
> decent and I wondered why the difference.
> A little while later I seen two or three very light traces on my
screen
> and turned up my receive to get a better trace, just then a strong
station
> came on he looked very wide an nasty all over the place, when I
turned my
> receive back down this station now looked very good on display, and
the
> faint ones were now back to being
> faint.
> If I would have told that station he was overdriving, had extra
sidebands
> all over, he would of rebuffed me
> and for good reason, I was the one that was at fault for his bad
looking
> signal.
> I would say that any one can make most signals look bad just by
playing
> with the receive on rig.
> So before you play pskcop or just really want to try and help
someone,
> look and make sure YOU ARE RIGHT FIRST, then help them,
> I try to be a good operator, but would of made myself look bad
and got
> some one mad at me, for something that was my own fault.
>
> Thanks for listening
> wn0i Gordon
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:37:35 -0500
From: Harvey Fisher <harvee1@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] signals
THAT IS EXACTLY MY POINT, AMONG OTHERS, WE SHOULD ALL BE TELLING THEM; NOT
JUST AN ISOLATED FEW, I.E. BIG MOUTH ME.
I DID USE THE ATTENUATOR ON MY TS-870. BAD STAYS BAD.
73 ALL
HARVEY
K2CJP
PS---
THIS NOT MEANT IN ANY WAY TO INSULT ANYONE.
I USE UPPER CASE... IT IS EASIER FOR ME TO READ AS I HUNT AND PECK.
Gordon Carlson wrote:
>
> Harry
> all I am saying is that by having the receive from the rig high you can
> make them appear very bad on the display, try it once.
> But seeing as you use 3 programs and a scope to check them out I guess you
> should be the one to tell them then...
>
> Gordon
>
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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:25:21 -0600
From: "Marcus C. Leatham" <leatham@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] signals
Gordon,
Don't worry, Harvey was the one who told me
about my bad signal. But, guess what?
He was right! I had a ground loop.
Marcus KR5N
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From: "Gordon Carlson" <gcarlson@smig.net>
To: "psk" <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 9:19 PM
Subject: [psk31] signals
>
> Harry
> all I am saying is that by having the receive from the rig
high you can
> make them appear very bad on the display, try it once.
> But seeing as you use 3 programs and a scope to check them
out I guess you
> should be the one to tell them then...
>
> Gordon
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 08:30:17 +0200
From: "DL2RR" <dl2rr@qsl.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] WinPSKse
Hello PSK-freaks,
all ok, Arthur - except that MixW has also two receiving channels.
vy 73 de Dieter - dl2rr@qsl.net
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> Von: Arthur Blave <arthur.blave@skynet.be>
> An: psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es
> Betreff: [psk31] WinPSKse
> Datum: Freitag, 31. März 2000 10:31
>
>
>
>
> Hello there : winPSKse.exe AE4JY/KA1DT
> May I add a few comments about that psk software?
> When I started PSK (after 34 years of DX RTTY!) I loaded several tests
> including this one(earlier version).
> Let me say that 2 RX displays are really very usefull as we can monitor a
> QSO and wait it's end and call the
> wanted station just in time for the best chance to do the contact while
> monitoring around ...
> I don't thing any other soft is doing that??
> I dropped a mail to Moe AE4JY and Dave KA1DT to let them know how great
was
> my pleasure with their developments.
> I suggested also a very few minors suggestions in the displays and let me
> say that all are now effectives in the
> recent version 1.3.
> I am active in DX usually with the 500Hz filter, sometimes 250 if
needed
> or 2.4Khz for broad monitoring.
> That seems for me to be the best for DX PSK31. Moreover, the help menu
is
> really complete with many pix.
> Thanks to the authors!!!
>
> You may load that version from
> http://www.psk31.com
> you click the page Software
> you click WinPSK31se by KA1DT version 1.3 (660K)
>
> All the very bests from Belgium Prof.Arthur BLAVE ON4BX
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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:05:39 +0100
From: "Keith Powell" <Keithp@g4jvx.screaming.net>
Subject: [psk31] PSK with FT101ZD
Hello all.
I am sending this on behalf of another amateur who is not on the internet.
He would like to start using PSK, and wonders if he can use it with his
FT101ZD, using the VOX to trigger TX.
Has anyone successfully done it with this rig, please?
If so, can you give me some information to pass on to him?
Many thanks
Keith G4JVX
keithp@g4jvx.screaming.net
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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 06:58:35 -0600
From: "Gordon Carlson" <gcarlson@smig.net>
Subject: [psk31] psk signals
Hi All
This is my last word on the subject, Harvey is right a bad signal is
still a bad signal, and they should be helped right away.
No where in my posting is there anything that says if you turn down your
receive it will make a already bad one good, I did say you can make a good
one look bad, by having to much receive from the rig.. I will still take an
extra look at my own station, before I tell some one of their signal
quality.
Thanks Gordon.
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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 15:20:16 -0500
From: Ricardo Trujillo <rtv@ire.com>
Subject: RE: [psk31] psk signals
I'll add,
If distortion is introduced at the receiving end, it will be ahead of the
scope or analyzing software. Of course, the attenuator Harvey mentioned
guarantees an undistorted reception, but I also agree that extra care is
needed when criticizing another station's signal.
Ricardo, HK4BHA
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Carlson [mailto:gcarlson@smig.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 7:59 AM
To: psk
Subject: [psk31] psk signals
Hi All
This is my last word on the subject, Harvey is right a bad signal is
still a bad signal, and they should be helped right away.
No where in my posting is there anything that says if you turn down your
receive it will make a already bad one good, I did say you can make a good
one look bad, by having to much receive from the rig.. I will still take an
extra look at my own station, before I tell some one of their signal
quality.
Thanks Gordon.
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