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Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #317
Fecha: jueves 17 de febrero de 2000 4:23


Psk31 Digest        Thursday, February 17 2000        Volume 01 : Number 317



In this issue:

    [psk31] IC751 mic connector
    [psk31] CM18330/C3D Sound Chip
    [psk31] PSK hooked up to TS850??
    [psk31] observation
    Re: [psk31] Character of Input Signal Wave form
    [psk31] PSK 31 IMD measurements
    Re: [psk31] observation
    Re: [psk31] observation
    RE: [psk31] observation

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:29:44 -0500
From: Jim Lyons <lyons@canada.com>
Subject: [psk31] IC751 mic connector

I've got PSK31 working well feeding the audio into the mic connector via a
RS connector on the audio lead.  Now I'd like to make a switch box to save
unplugging the mike each time I want to go on PSK31.  Can anyone point me
to a source of the panel mount mic connector and the designation thereof?
I know it's 8-pin DIN but searching Mouser and Digikey catalogs I've not
een able to get a definitive match.

Jim Lyons, VE2KN
Montreal

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:00:51 -0500
From: James Collins <w3ixj@home.com>
Subject: [psk31] CM18330/C3D Sound Chip

Has anyone had any experience with theis sound chip?  It is mounted on
the motherboard and functions as a soundboard should except I cannot get
it to do anything with PSK.  Installing a SoundBlaster card and turning
off the onboard chip solves the problem, PSK then works great.  Anyone
know any tricks to start the onboard working.  Have latest drivers
installed.
Jim W3IXJ

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:02:32 -0500
From: "KD2E" <ham@cybercomm.net>
Subject: [psk31] PSK hooked up to TS850??

I had my laptop hooked up to a 440S.
That was EASY! 
Did anyone hook things up to an 850?
Do I have to get any strange DIN plugs from Kenwood, or build any
transformer type level changing gadgetry??
Let me know your success.
Thanks....Dave

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:31:05 -0600
From: fkamp <fkamp@home.com>
Subject: [psk31] observation

I have been working PSK for months now and just discovered
something that may be of interest.

When you go to PSK, be sure and unplug or disconnect your
microphone.

Never gave that much thought before, but the mike element is
live all the time when plugged into or connected to the
radio.  It has to be that way, otherwise VOX would not
work.  So with the mike connected, it is live when you go to
transmit PSK regardless if you use PTT or VOX.  Any loud
noises in the shack get transmitted over the air through the
mike.

Frank Kamp
K5DKZ

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:51:30 -0600
From: fkamp <fkamp@home.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Character of Input Signal Wave form

Robert Lay wrote:
> 
> Dear Louis,
> 
> > I check my transmitted signal by monitoring the INPUT screen on WINPSK1.1
> 
> Your use of the INPUT screen to monitor your own signal is probably not too
> meaningful - especially since it bears very little relationship to what
actually
> goes out over the air. That display can only see what is being produced within
> the soundcard. Most on-the-air problems are produced in the transceiver
(usually
> from too much drive. If the modulation envelope that you see is showing
obvious> signs of flat topping, believe me that your own ears will recognize
the raw
> signal and you won't have any doubt about it.
> 
> The INPUT display was designed to allow you to set your RECEIVE Input Level.


Good point.

I have also noticed that a perfectly good PSK signal can be
made to look distorted by overdriving the input to the sound
card.  In fact, overdrive anywhere in the chain between
transmitter mike input and receiver audio soundcard input
will show up as bad IMD performance.

I have also noticed that sound card audio output, even from
line output instead of speaker output, is several orders of
magnitude greater than the output of the microphone I use
for voice SSB operation.  The mixer volume control does not
allow sufficient control over the audio that ultimately goes
to my microphone input.  I had to use an attenuator in the
line going to the mike connection on the radio to match
normal microphone levels as viewed on a scope.  Without the
attenuator, I was overdriving the microphone preamp on the
radio regardless of the mixer volume settings.

Frank Kamp
K5DKZ

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:11:26 -0600
From: "Bob Hicks" <w5tx@airmail.net>
Subject: [psk31] PSK 31 IMD measurements

I have just completed some preliminary IMD measurements on 3 different rigs
and the results may be found on my home page at
http://web2.airmail.net/w5tx/psk31/
The spectrum photos are about 35K each after compression so be patient, some
pages will have 5 photos.  This is a work in progress and hopefully I will
be able to update every few days and will notify for those who might be
interested.  Comments are of course welcome.

Bob
- - w5tx@airmail.net

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:15:16 -0600
From: "hasan schiers" <schiers@netins.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] observation

This totally depends on your radio. If I connect via the back panel of the
ts 870 kenwood, the mike is muted during transmit.

(But, depending on radio, you certainly may have a point)

73

hasan schiers
schiers@netins.net
N0AN

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:54:19 -0600
From: fkamp <fkamp@home.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] observation

hasan schiers wrote:
> 
> This totally depends on your radio. If I connect via the back panel of the
> ts 870 kenwood, the mike is muted during transmit.
> 
> (But, depending on radio, you certainly may have a point)
> 
> 73
> 
> hasan schiers
> schiers@netins.net
> N0AN
>
Well, that certainly is true.  I have one of those dumb
Ten-Tec Omni radios that merely connect the mike from the
front panel in parallel with the phone-patch connection on
the rear panel.  If its plugged in, its on the air when you
hit PTT.

Frank Kamp
K5DKZ

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:15:54 -0500
From: "K2JXW - Weidner Publishing" <weidner@kwiknet.net>
Subject: RE: [psk31] observation

Same thing is true for the Icom 706 MKII.  Use the audio input and output
connectors on the back, not the mic connector.  Moreover, the audio / sig
/quality will be
much much better.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es
> [mailto:owner-psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es]On Behalf Of fkamp
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 6:54 PM
> To: hasan schiers
> Cc: PSK31 List
> Subject: Re: [psk31] observation
>
>
> hasan schiers wrote:
> >
> > This totally depends on your radio. If I connect via the back
> panel of the
> > ts 870 kenwood, the mike is muted during transmit.
> >
> > (But, depending on radio, you certainly may have a point)
> >
> > 73
> >

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