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De: Psk31 Digest <owner-psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Para: <psk31-digest@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #258
Fecha: martes 14 de diciembre de 1999 4:26


Psk31 Digest        Tuesday, December 14 1999        Volume 01 : Number 258



In this issue:

    [psk31] Keying Methods?
    [psk31] PSK31 & Windows NT
    [psk31] PSK31 on a 486dx with 4MB ram?
    Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?
    Re: [psk31] PSK31 & Windows NT
    Re: [psk31] PSK31 & Windows NT
    Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?
    Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?

See the end of the digest for information about psk31-digest

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:33:54 -0600
From: "Thomas Webb" <tmwebb@ionet.net>
Subject: [psk31] Keying Methods?

Just this evening, I did a little research on voltages on my COM 1 serial
port.  I knew to expect 'high' (i.e. postive) when keyed and 'low' (i.e.
negative) when resting.  However, I was expecting 5 vdc rather than 12vdc.
You learn something every day.  With this is mind, is there any reason you
couldn't use a small 12vdc relay, with appropriate blocking diodes, to key
the xmiter for PSK31?

Let spirited debate begin!

Tom Webb, WA9AFM

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:50:20 -0500
From: w4ec@juno.com
Subject: [psk31] PSK31 & Windows NT

My problem is with the NT Workstation.  I can't get the PSK31 to work.
The tuning scope shows only a red dot in the center no matter where I
tune around to.
The water fall stays completely black and doesn't change either.

I need some help!!

I swap in and out 2 physical hard drives on my pc.

One hard drive has Windows 98 and the other hard drive has NT
Workstation.
I have no problem at all with the Windows 98 hard drive using the PSK31
Version 1.08
by P. Martinez G3PLX.  Everything works like it should.

The settings are the same on both hard drives:
Sample rate hz.   11025
Center afreq.       1000
PTT                     None

The sound card does function with NT.

Version 1.08 says that it will work with NT, but I have been unable to
make it happen.

Any suggestions on getting NT to work with PSK31??

de W4EC
Daryl in Kentucky

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:32:26 +0800
From: "Philip Maley" <phil@wotech.com.au>
Subject: [psk31] PSK31 on a 486dx with 4MB ram?

Hi all

A friend is trying to get PSK31SBW to run on his 486DX40 with 
4MB ram and an ESS1688 sound card. Operating system is Windows 3.11.
The sound system works fine with normal windows applications.

When the software is set for the default sampling rate it locks up 
before the full screen display is finished loading. He tried 
reducing the sampling rate to an arbitrarily low 3500 and the 
program was then able to load but the sound card would not work. 

Question is - does this sound like a problem of:
 
a) processor speed too low;
b) insufficient RAM;
c) incompatible sound card;
d) incompatible operating system?

Ideas please?

Thanks and Merry Christmas to you all.

73
Phil Maley VK6AD

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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 02:01:15 GMT
From: Al Williams <alw@al-williams.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?

Most ports supply +/-12V. However others supply less (+/-5V is not 
uncommon on some older laptops, for example).

RS-232 drivers must provide 5V into a 3K load... this is a 1.6mA at 
5V. At 12V you'd expect less -- so you have to be careful how much 
current you draw. Of course, your port may (or may not) supply less.

73,

Al WD5GNR


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 12/13/99, 6:33:54 PM, "Thomas Webb" <tmwebb@ionet.net> wrote 
regarding [psk31] Keying Methods?:


> Just this evening, I did a little research on voltages on my COM 1 
serial
> port.  I knew to expect 'high' (i.e. postive) when keyed and 'low' 
(i.e.
> negative) when resting.  However, I was expecting 5 vdc rather than 
12vdc.
> You learn something every day.  With this is mind, is there any reason 
you
> couldn't use a small 12vdc relay, with appropriate blocking diodes, to 
key
> the xmiter for PSK31?

> Let spirited debate begin!

> Tom Webb, WA9AFM

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:40:38 -0700
From: Bruce Grubbs N7CEE <n7cee@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] PSK31 & Windows NT

Hi Daryl,
Sounds like you're having the same problem I had with NT. Open the Volume
Control in the system tray (the speaker icon) by double left clicking it.
This shows you the full volume control panel with multiple sliders (if you
don't have the icon, open the COntrol Panel, Multimedia, Audio tab, and
check "Show volume control...").

On the Volume Control, make sure the Mute box is unchecked, then adjust the
microphone slider until you get the waterfall and tuning displays at the
right level (short of going red, which means your overdring the sound
card). If you don't see a Microphone control, go to the menu and pick
Options, Properties, and make sure all the controls on the list are checked.

If you are using Line Input instead of the Microphone input to the sound
card, do the above with Line Input.

On my system, the Microphone volume control was hidden until I did this.
Then I discovered that it was muted.

I've also run PSK31SBW under Win98- the mike seems to be enabled by
default, which is why PSK works out of the box without having to go through
all this.

Good luck and 73


Bruce N7CEE
n7cee@arrl.net

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:58:57 -0600
From: "Dan W. Dooley" <dandooley@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] PSK31 & Windows NT

Daryl, I've been looking at the details of your post trying to glean clues
as to why you're not getting PSK31 to work with NT.  I am running it quite
successfully here on NT.  Granted, I am running NT Server rather than
Workstation, but I doubt if that is significant.

Sounds like audio is getting into the sound card but resulting only in the
red dot in the center.  You say the sound card is working, but have you
tried to feed a audio signal into the same input (of the card) and hear it?

I'm not providing good help here, I know, but at least you will know that
the program will work with NT.

Dan W. Dooley WB5TKA      Y2K Complacent
    e-mail to: dandooley@pipeline.com
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:57:26 -0600 (CST)
From: Bob Roehrig <broehrig@admin.aurora.edu>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Thomas Webb wrote:

> Just this evening, I did a little research on voltages on my COM 1 serial
> port.  I knew to expect 'high' (i.e. postive) when keyed and 'low' (i.e.
> negative) when resting.  However, I was expecting 5 vdc rather than 12vdc.
> You learn something every day.  With this is mind, is there any reason you
> couldn't use a small 12vdc relay, with appropriate blocking diodes, to key
> the xmiter for PSK31?

The RS-232 port does not deliver much in the way of current. So unless
you find a really sensitive relay, don't plan to drive it directly.

                    "Nostalgia is a thing of the past"
    E-mail: broehrig@admin.aurora.edu or k9eui@arrl.net   73 de Bob, K9EUI
            CIS: Data / Telecom   Aurora University, Aurora, IL
                      630-844-4898  Fax 630-844-4222


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:05:06 -0600
From: "Tom Branch" <k4nr@satx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?

Why not use a simple circuit using a transistor and a resistor?  I use one
here to key my amplifier using the 12 volts out on the rear of the TS-850.

73 de Tom, K4NR



- -----Original Message-----
From: Al Williams <alw@al-williams.com>
To: Thomas Webb <tmwebb@ionet.net>
Cc: psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [psk31] Keying Methods?


>Most ports supply +/-12V. However others supply less (+/-5V is not
>uncommon on some older laptops, for example).
>
>RS-232 drivers must provide 5V into a 3K load... this is a 1.6mA at
>5V. At 12V you'd expect less -- so you have to be careful how much
>current you draw. Of course, your port may (or may not) supply less.
>
>73,
>
>Al WD5GNR

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