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Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #102
Fecha: jueves 8 de julio de 1999 4:27
Psk31 Digest Thursday, July 8 1999 Volume 01 : Number 102
In this issue:
Re: [psk31] Address Change
Re: [psk31] ERROR MESSAGE
Re: [psk31] Address Change
Re: [psk31] Comm Port 3
Re: [psk31] Comm Port 3
Re: [psk31] Comm Port 3
[psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Re: [psk31] September 4th Contest
Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
[psk31] 8-bit vs 16-bit Sound Cards
[psk31] Hey I remebered the subject this time :-)
Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
See the end of the digest for information about psk31-digest
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:24:18 +0200
From: "Pieter" <pa0iwo@vrza.org>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Address Change
Issosimple: you unsubscribe with your old address and then
subscribe on the new adress. Computers work that way
- ------------------------------------------------------
Pieter PA0IWO, pa0iwo@vrza.org
(Amateur radio is REAL radio. Beware of imitations!)
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bierly <bbierly@access1.net>
> Why can I not get majordomo to accept my address change?
Says I am not
> listed on either one. I am receiving mail on
bbierly@flash.net and need to
> change to bbierly@access1.net.
> Bill
>
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:56:34 +0200
From: "Pieter" <pa0iwo@vrza.org>
Subject: Re: [psk31] ERROR MESSAGE
Here in the Netherlands in every cheap computer shop (that's
all except IBM and Compaq) are for sale 16 bit ISA
soundcards of the Taiwanese brand Crystal for the
equivalent price of 8 to 12 dollars. You don't need second
hand for that and they work like a song!
- ------------------------------------------------------
Pieter PA0IWO, pa0iwo@vrza.org
(Amateur radio is REAL radio. Beware of imitations!)
- ----- Original Message ----- > >Hi Jim, the PRO won't work,
it is not 16 bit processing..
> >Try to find another card. They are hard to find if you
have
> >the older ISA slots but maybe used ones. No problem if
you
> >are using PCI slots..
> a s o
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 07:26:43 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Address Change
Dear Bill,
As I understand it, you would first have to Unsubscribe completely by using the
currently subscribed account.
Then, once that has been acknowledged, you would have to subscribe afresh while
using the new account name.
If those steps are not possible for any reason, then I think your only recourse
is to contact the list owner and ask him to intervene manually to accomplish the
first step. You would then, still have to do the second step on your own.
Does that sound logical?
73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
>Why can I not get majordomo to accept my address change? Says I am not
>listed on either one. I am receiving mail on bbierly@flash.net and need to
>change to bbierly@access1.net.
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:21:46 GMT
From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Subject: Re: [psk31] Comm Port 3
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:13:48 -0500, you wrote:
>My comm ports 1 & 2 are in use(telephone modem and packet modem). Although a
>serial port switch box would allow me access to a DTS signal for PTT, I was
>considering adding a serial card to get comm 3. However, this raises the
>specter of IRQ conflicts. I was curious if other folks are using comm 3(or
>4) and how they are getting around IRQ conflicts. Also, is anyone using a
>creative way to get the DTS line for PTT.
I added a two port serial card to my computer (a Pentium 133) in an
attempt to get two additional serial ports. However, I have only been
able to find one available IRQ (15 - as I only have one IDE channel
used), so I haven't been able to get the second port working.
On my machine, one serial port is used by the mouse. I use the second
one for PSK keying. I wanted to use an additional serial port for
controlling the transciever via it's serial port. Before I added the
additional serial port, I was able to use the DTR line for PSK keying
and the remaining lines to control the radio. I just built a cable
that split the DTR signal out. This worked for me because the same
program (my modified PSK software) was controlling the radio and
operating the DTR signal. When you use Windows to talk to the serial
port, only one application can talk to the port at a time. If two apps
try to open the same serial port, the second app will get a 'port
already in use error'.
73,
Mark, N8ME
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 10:45:00 -0500
From: Martin <rutherford.ulea@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Comm Port 3
Hi Guys. Just to let everyone know, there is an option for keying your
rig for PSK operation other than VOX (I find this undesirable as any
sound
generated by windows while I am monitoring would go out on the air!),
and using a com port (both of mine are in use too!) I built a simple
switch box, with a push-on push-off switch to key my rig for PSK
operation. Later, I added jacks for a foot switch, the original hand
mic, and a headset mic, with a DPDT center off toggle switch to switch
between mics, and a normally open pushbutton switch for keying when
using the headset.
Manual keying works very well for me for PSK, and I set the toggle
switch to it's center off position, so I don't get any mic audio.
Mark Erbaugh wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:13:48 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >My comm ports 1 & 2 are in use(telephone modem and packet modem). Although a
> >serial port switch box would allow me access to a DTS signal for PTT, I was
> >considering adding a serial card to get comm 3. However, this raises the
> >specter of IRQ conflicts. I was curious if other folks are using comm 3(or
> >4) and how they are getting around IRQ conflicts. Also, is anyone using a
> >creative way to get the DTS line for PTT.
>
>
- --
Cul8r
Martin Campbell rutherford.ulea@mcleodusa.net KB0HAE
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:21:14 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Comm Port 3
Dear Mark and Tom and others,
I will take the liberty of copying Peter's recent remarks on this subject, since
you may missed it.
**********From Peter's bulletin************
It may be easier to decide how to configure COM3 or COM4 for PSK31SBW
PTT if I tell you that PSK31SBW doesn't need an IRQ line. It just
opens and closes the COM port and toggles the RTS and DTR pins. It
doesn't send any traffic or receive any traffic.
I don't think you can set Windows so that a COM port doesn't have an
IRQ, but if you do your extra COM3/4 ports with a plug-in card, you
could tell Windows that you are sharing the COM3/4 IRQ lines with
COM1/2 but simply not fit the appropriate IRQ jumpers on the card.
This way you could even have PSK31SBW running with COM3 or 4 while
another program is using COM1 or 2. If you cannot disable the IRQs
this way on COM3/4, you can still tell windows that you are sharing
IRQ's but you must remember NOT to use COM1 when COM3 is in use (or
vice versa) or COM2 when COM4 is in use (or vice versa).
**************End of Peter's bulletin*****************
You will note that Peter has equivocated on the issue of whether Windows will
allow you to de-allocate the IRQ that normally is assigned to a COM port. I have
tried to de-allocate the IRQ in Windows 98, and if there's a way to do that, I
haven't found it. I then decided to try the CMOS Setup, which allows me some
flexibility in choice of port address and IRq, but it also does not let me
de-allocate the IRQ entirely.
I think Peter's remarks were based on a Win 3.x system.
I take a pass on the questions of "sharing" interrupts between Serial Ports,
however, in the past I have noted that in Pre- Windows 9x days, that COM ports 1
& 3 were usually set up to share IRQ4 while COM ports 2 & 4 were usually set up
to share IRQ3.
73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:26:06 -0700
From: "Robert G.Wagner" <n6dur@san.rr.com>
Subject: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Hi Fellow Warbler's
Hearing some QRM near 14070, I decided to re-visit my PK-900 and Pactor
mode to see who it was. Although we have been experiencing "some" TOR
QRM from time to time, looking from their standpoint, our warble doesn't
help their QSO either. Hopefully there will be some part of the band
for PSK31 too, so we don't bang into each other so much. Some PSK31
users may not even be familiar with the "agreed/courteous" use of the
digital comm freqs. If not, you might want to take a look. AC6V's
website has lot's of info about this and other Ham Info. Take a look at
Rod's great site:
http://www.ac6v.com/
However, that's not the point of this EMail. Getting back on Pactor
made "me" realize just how great PSK31 is compared to operating Pactor,
for the routine QSO. The throughput is noticably better for average
band conditions and power out, and the weak signal print is great too .
It is also pleasant not to have the handshaking necessary with TOR and
extra QRM, and PSK31 is much better for "reading the mail" , when
monitoring a QSO, instead of those missing text underlines associated
with the TOR mode. Yes, if you want error free communications, send it
Pactor or some other error correcting/ handshaking mode, but for regular
rag chews, PSK31 is the way to go. "Thanks Peter, G3PLX", we're
having a lot of Fun.
de N6DUR BOB
P.S. Yes I know, No Gateway, Mail Box, etc,. . . . . .
- --
ICQ# 2667720
WebMail: n6dur@netscape.net
Page me at:
http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2667720#pager
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:26:04 -0400
From: RICHARD W SOLOMON <w1ksz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] September 4th Contest
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:10:58 -0400 "Andrew J. O'Brien"
<obrienaj@netsync.net> writes:
>I am receiving many interesting suggestions about the September 4th
>PSK
>contest, some suggesting rule/scoring changes. These are gratefully
>received but due to publishing deadlines for those reprinting the
>contest
>announcement, I do not intend to keep changing the rules. The
>original
>mistake of including WARC bands was amended within 12 hours of the
>announcement as was a URL error. Unless there are clear
>errors/mistakes we
>will keep the rules/scoring the same and incorporate many of the fine
>suggested improvements next year.
>
>Thanks
>Andy.
>
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 19:41:25 -0400
From: Daryl <jdc@cfw.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
One thing I have noticed is the pactor folks are about the most
discourteous bunch on the air. They dont care if a freq is in use they just
start using it. They do the same thing in the RTTY section. They seem to
think they own the airways. I am tempted to get on pactor just to get thier
call letters and report them to the fcc. That is intentional interference.
At 03:26 PM 7/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Fellow Warbler's
>
>Hearing some QRM near 14070, I decided to re-visit my PK-900 and Pactor
>mode to see who it was. Although we have been experiencing "some" TOR
>QRM from time to time, looking from their standpoint, our warble doesn't
>help their QSO either. Hopefully there will be some part of the band
>for PSK31 too, so we don't bang into each other so much. Some PSK31
>users may not even be familiar with the "agreed/courteous" use of the
>digital comm freqs. If not, you might want to take a look. AC6V's
>website has lot's of info about this and other Ham Info. Take a look at
>Rod's great site:
>
>http://www.ac6v.com/
>
>However, that's not the point of this EMail. Getting back on Pactor
>made "me" realize just how great PSK31 is compared to operating Pactor,
>for the routine QSO. The throughput is noticably better for average
>band conditions and power out, and the weak signal print is great too .
>It is also pleasant not to have the handshaking necessary with TOR and
>extra QRM, and PSK31 is much better for "reading the mail" , when
>monitoring a QSO, instead of those missing text underlines associated
>with the TOR mode. Yes, if you want error free communications, send it
>Pactor or some other error correcting/ handshaking mode, but for regular
>rag chews, PSK31 is the way to go. "Thanks Peter, G3PLX", we're
>having a lot of Fun.
>
>de N6DUR BOB
>
>P.S. Yes I know, No Gateway, Mail Box, etc,. . . . . .
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:50:13 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: [psk31] 8-bit vs 16-bit Sound Cards
Hi Gang,
I have been informed that my advice on how to distinguish an 8 bit sound card
from a 16 bit sound card is faulty.
Apparently, the length of the edge connector on the cards is not a sure test, so
cancel my comments on those edge connectors. The edge connectors are short for
the old 8 bit computers (that is the XT) and when the PC-AT came out, also known
as the 286, the connectors on the mother board were extended to accommodate the
16 bit bus. Then, later, the PCI bus became available (we won't even mention the
VESA bus) which is an entirely different form factor. The edge connector of a
card relates only to the interface with the computer bus.
So, the edge connector on the card cannot be used as a reliable indicator of the
sound card design (that is, whether it's 8 bit sound or 16 bit sound).
73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:23:42 -0400
From: Daryl <jdc@cfw.com>
Subject: [psk31] Hey I remebered the subject this time :-)
Well I did discover life on 40 mtrs tonight. Every evening I CQ for abt 30
mins with PSK31 on 40 but never get an answer. To night my prayers were
answered. hihi. Had a very nice qso with W4ZYD. Maybe there are other
inhabitants tucked away in the nooks and crannies of 40 PSK31 to be
discovered. I shall continue my quest. :-)
*************************
Daryl Cline WB4YEX
Homepage: http://www.cfw.com/~jdc
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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:21:30 -0400
From: Charles Greene <cgreene@loa.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
At 07:41 PM 7/7/99 -0400, Daryl wrote:
There's a Pactor station I hear nearly constantly, propagation conditions
permitting, on 14070+. It's in Fl. I cranked up my AEA DSP 2232, and
lo and behold he was broadcasting the weather! What for? If I want to
hear the weather, I'll tune in the weather channel!
>One thing I have noticed is the pactor folks are about the most
>discourteous bunch on the air. They dont care if a freq is in use they just
>start using it. They do the same thing in the RTTY section. They seem to
>think they own the airways. I am tempted to get on pactor just to get thier
>call letters and report them to the fcc. That is intentional interference.
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:55:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bob Roehrig <broehrig@admin.aurora.edu>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Charles Greene wrote:
> At 07:41 PM 7/7/99 -0400, Daryl wrote:
> There's a Pactor station I hear nearly constantly, propagation conditions
> permitting, on 14070+. It's in Fl. I cranked up my AEA DSP 2232, and
> lo and behold he was broadcasting the weather! What for? If I want to
> hear the weather, I'll tune in the weather channel!
If that's the case, that he's just "broadcasting" and not in QSO, then
get his call sign and complain to the FCC. That is illegal.
"Nostalgia is a thing of the past"
E-mail: broehrig@admin.aurora.edu or k9eui@arrl.net 73 de Bob, K9EUI
CIS: Data / Telecom Aurora University, Aurora, IL
630-844-4898 Fax 630-844-4222
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