| |
EB2DVY > PSK31 13.07.99 07:51l 537 Lines 18922 Bytes #-9968 (0) @ WW.SYD.NSW
BID : 182-EB2DVY
Read: OE1RRB GUEST
Subj: PSK31 Digest V1 #104
Path: OE1XAB<OE3XPR<OE3XBS<OE5XBL<OE2XOM<DB0PV<DB0AAB<DB0KFB<F8KOX<F6KNP<
F8KLY<F6BIG<F1BBI<F5KPO<F5KAT<EA3D<EA3B<EA2URV
Sent: 990710/2222Z @:EA2URV.EABI.ESP.EU #:61879 [URV-ABRA Bilbao] $:182-EB2DVY
From: EB2DVY@EA2URV.EABI.ESP.EU
To : PSK31@WW.SYD.NSW.AUS.OC
De: Psk31 Digest <owner-psk31@aintel.bi.ehu.es>
Para: <psk31-digest@aintel.bi.ehu.es>
Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #104
Fecha: viernes 9 de julio de 1999 4:35
Psk31 Digest Friday, July 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 104
In this issue:
[psk31] PSKBARE fixed?
Re: [psk31] Hey I remebered the subject this time :-)
Re: [psk31] pactor/ digital band plans
Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Re: [psk31] request
Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
[psk31] pactor/ digital band plans
RE: [psk31] Change reply to to the list ????????
[psk31] Logger Logging and PSK Program
[psk31] PSK and e-mail
Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Re: [psk31] pactor/ digital band plans
[psk31] Info from WD5GNR-Stranded!
Re: [psk31] Change reply to to the list ????????
[psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Re: [psk31] Logger Logging and PSK Program
[psk31] Boston and QEX
Re: [psk31] Logger Logging and PSK Program
See the end of the digest for information about psk31-digest
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:32:54 -0500
From: "Al Williams" <alw@al-williams.com>
Subject: [psk31] PSKBARE fixed?
PSKBARE should work the way it used to know -- as you know the new version
was there but so was the old version -- my mistake.
Please let me know if this is still giving you trouble and I'll fix it as
soon as I'm able.
73,
Al WD5GNR
www.al-williams.com/wd5gnr/pskgnr.htm
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:39:08 -0400
From: "mills-owen" <mills-owen@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Hey I remebered the subject this time :-)
The info is on http://www.qsl.net/wm2u/psk31.html but here it is anyway :)
Mark Erbaugh, N8ME runs a great PSK Net on Tuesday nights at 10:00pm EDT on
7.071 MHz. Their a good crew. Come and join us!
Enjoy, 73 Ernie
Ernest Mills
ICQ #3948450
http://www.qsl.net/wm2u
http://www.n2ty.org
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Vince <wa2rsx@worldnet.att.net>
To: Daryl <jdc@cfw.com>
Cc: <psk31@aintel.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [psk31] Hey I remebered the subject this time :-)
> Hi Daryl:
> Are you aware that there is a NET on 40 meters? Or, at least there was
> something started not too long ago by an OM in 8-Land, I think it was.
But, I
> dont have the details here now.
>
> 73s
> ~Vince~
>
>
> Daryl wrote:
>
> > Well I did discover life on 40 mtrs tonight. Every evening I CQ for abt
30
> > mins with PSK31 on 40 but never get an answer. To night my prayers were
> > answered. hihi. Had a very nice qso with W4ZYD. Maybe there are other
> > inhabitants tucked away in the nooks and crannies of 40 PSK31 to be
> > discovered. I shall continue my quest. :-)
> >
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 09:43:33 -0700
From: "Robert G.Wagner" <n6dur@san.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] pactor/ digital band plans
Bob Roehrig wrote:
>
> Speaking of having the various digital modes on top of each other,
> As far as I know, the ARRL has never really recognized any gentlemen's
> agreements as to where the various digital modes should be. I have raised
> this issue with them and get the typical no response.
>
This information is worth reviewing by PSK'ERS:
http://www.primechoice.com/w7pxl/freq.html
- --
ICQ# 2667720
WebMail: n6dur@netscape.net
Page me at:
http://wwp.mirabilis.com/2667720#pager
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:01:01 -0500
From: "Dale L. Martin" <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
>Many years ago people showed some courtousy.
>
And I believe and contend, Daryl, that many, if not most, people
do show and demonstrate courtesy every hour of every day. That
we see and hear about discourteous activities is simply because
(1) we have more people in the ham radio hobby today, (2) the ham
radio hobby is becoming a more representative microcosm of our
society, and (3) we have better/faster/wider communications
exchange between individuals, groups and even countries. The
actions of a very few somehow easily and quickly get disseminated
and thus make it seem more widespread than it really is.
We are, by and large, a courteous and friendly lot!
73 and back to PSK31 fun!
dale, kg5u
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:16:25 +0100
From: "Keith" <keithp@psilink.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [psk31] request
Hello All.
Many thanks for the suggestions re. my request to put [psk31] in the subject
line. Fortunately, none of the suggestions were rude!!!!!
I was using IE4 but have just changed to IE5, and had only got [psk31] as a
filter in the subject line. Following on from the suggestions, I have made
it a more sophisticated filtering and now there should be no problems. I
should have investigated the filtering options more fully before sending the
request.
Very many thanks again for the advice.
There is a lot of very good information passed round the group and much
helpful advice.
Hope to work some of you one day on PSK.
73 de Keith G4JVX
keithp@psilink.co.uk
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:21:24 -0300
From: py2pll@unetsul.com.br (Marcus Ramos (0946))
Subject: Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
Hi ...
>My position is that the MBO's provide a tremendous public relations for
>ham radio. I've taken a couple of camping tours with Net-Link as a
>means of e-mailing to my non-ham (and ham) friends. They really love it
>and are greatly impressed that ham radio makes this possible. (Too bad
>that most countries prohibit that kind of 3rd party traffic.)
There's room for everybody and time fix everything. One of the hams
responsibility, besides research, self education and emergency may be the
history maintenance. An example: FeldHell, originated in 1928 and back to
the scene some years ago due to software possibilities. But among the users
there is some hams that keep the original Helscrheiber machines running; so
CW, RTTY and etc ...
An Australian company (may be there's others or even became a standard, I
don't know) offer e-mail service offshore by short-wave - guess how -
PACTOR!
And suddenly the propagation open to another place and a PSK31 signal
appears just over one of the PACTOR signal carriers ... like happen in
phone, CW, RTTY, SSTV ...
If I can remember the suggestion to use 14070.15 was based on IARU band
plans and it's the beginning of RTTY/PACTOR/AMTOR segment - but not the
unattended stations slot, which is 14060 to 14070 (I guess) ...
Marcus, PY3CRX/PY2PLL
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:36:09 -0600
From: Loren E Page <w7bwi@juno.com>
Subject: [psk31] pactor/ digital band plans
>Speaking of having the various digital modes on top of each other,
>As far as I know, the ARRL has never really recognized any
>gentlemen's agreements as to where the various digital modes
>should be. I have raised this issue with them and get the
>typical no response.
Dear Bob,
On the above, I did get a response from Dave Sumner, but it was a "ho
hum" sort of response which left me with the opinion he could care less!
73, Loren W7BWI.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:09:58 -0500
From: "Dan W. Dooley" <dandooley@pipeline.com>
Subject: RE: [psk31] Change reply to to the list ????????
Outlook 98, and if I recall, Outlook Express in at least most late flavors
have separate "Reply To" and "Reply To All" buttons. I'd bet that the bulk
of e-mail clients do as well.
Dan WB5TKA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-psk31@aintel.bi.ehu.es
> [mailto:owner-psk31@aintel.bi.ehu.es]On Behalf Of George T. Baker
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:07 AM
> To: Daryl
> Cc: psk31@aintel.bi.ehu.es
> Subject: Re: [psk31] Change reply to to the list ????????
>
>
> Check your mail client, Daryl. I use Netscape 4.5 and it has two reply
> buttons: Reply and Reply All. First goes only to the sender while second
> one goes to all addressees.
>
> 72/73, George AMA 98452 R/C since 1964
>
> Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 53rd year and it just keeps getting better!
> AutoPOWER Systems, Fairview, TX (30 mi NE Dallas) Collin County
> QRP-L QRP-ARCI FISTS NORCAL ZOMBIE ARS 10-X 33.2 N 96.6 W EM13RE
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:39:31 -0500
From: Martin <rutherford.ulea@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: [psk31] Logger Logging and PSK Program
Hi Folks. I have been trying out the Logger program for the last few
days. It is available for free download and use from:
http://www.itis.net/golist/download.htm
As much as I like Peter's PSK31, and Al's PSKGNR, I like Logger better.
It integrates most of the functions of PSK31 and PSKGNR with a nice
logging program. The Tuning display is the same as PSK31, with an added
spectrum scope (which is not that useful in my opinion...The spectrum
scope that is.) Logger has more than 20 programmable macro buttons that
you can program and label as you chose. When you hear a station calling
CQ, if you double click on his call, it is added to the Call sign space
in the logging window. Now that call sign shows up when you use a macro
containing the macro command $call$. Type the other ham's name in the
comments space, and that name will show up when the command $name$ shows
up in a macro. Several sample macros are provided that can be edited.
You can type ahead, or wait until the other party is finished, and you
start transmitting, as you wish. Of course not everyone will like
Logger, but it is worth a look. If you do download the program, you
must unzip it first, then run Install.exe, then download the upgrade,
and install it in the same way. Then you must unzip the file
"files.zip" into the directory you installed Logger into. The program
takes a little getting used to, but has some pretty good help files.
Take a look and see what you think!
the
- --
Cul8r
Martin Campbell rutherford.ulea@mcleodusa.net KB0HAE
Want to help stop Spam? (also known as UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL)
Support the Anti-Spam Amendment. Join at http://www.cauce.org/
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 14:07:19 -0500
From: John Chamberlain <chamber@cord.org>
Subject: [psk31] PSK and e-mail
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:19:46 Al Williams WD5GNR wrote:
>> I'm am stranded in Blythesville AR with a blown
>> head gasket (sitting here at the Best Western
>> with no car)...with my laptop.
Sorry to hear of your misfortune, Al.
So PSK is only good for keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's because of it's modest
speed and lack of error correction (that is, no file transfers and such).
But what if one could send and receive brief e-mail messages via PSK? Just
think, Al could sit in Blythesville AR and connect to the world with a
mobile HF rig (maybe even QRP) and laptop.
OK...before everyone shoots me down, I'm just brainstorming here. :-)
Maybe this will trigger an idea for someone to try to make a PSK gateway...
73 de AC5CV
John Chamberlain (AC5CV@arrl.org)
Waco, TX EM11jm
------------------------------
Date: 08 Jul 1999 13:02:51 -0700
From: Rich McAllister K6RFM <rfm@pensfa.org>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
"Richard L. Mock" <mock@teleport.com> writes:
> I think it would be a phenomenal system that would wait for
> all broadcast listeners to ARQ with "Got it" so that repeats of that
> packet are not necessary; proceed to the next one." In such a system
> the ARQ's would sound like the biggest pile-up you ever heard.
That's exactly the way DX packet clusters work, y'know.
Rich
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:36:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bob Roehrig <broehrig@admin.aurora.edu>
Subject: Re: [psk31] pactor/ digital band plans
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Loren E Page wrote:
> On the above, I did get a response from Dave Sumner, but it was a "ho
> hum" sort of response which left me with the opinion he could care less!
Yes, that was my experience.
Robert Wagner suggested a look at www.primechoice.com/w7pxl/freq.html
which I did and it just further emphasizes my point - all it says is
"data" - specific modes are not defined. Now it is perhaps ridiculous
to think we can have exclusive sub-bands for each individual mode
because there are so many, but "data" could be broken down a little
anyway.
"Nostalgia is a thing of the past"
E-mail: broehrig@admin.aurora.edu or k9eui@arrl.net 73 de Bob, K9EUI
CIS: Data / Telecom Aurora University, Aurora, IL
630-844-4898 Fax 630-844-4222
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 15:10:11 -0600
From: mcduffie@scottsbluff.net (Gary McDuffie, Sr.)
Subject: [psk31] Info from WD5GNR-Stranded!
Al asked me to pass this along...so here 'tis. -- Gary
> Can you forward this to the list for me:
> I understand that the pskbare versions are out of date. I have had car
> trouble in the middle of no where and I'm stuck in a hotel room in
> Blythesville AR so I will try to resolve this problem ASAP but may not have
> any luck. Looks like it will be tomorrow before I contiune driving back
> home.
> 73,
>Al WD5GNR
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:04:39 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Change reply to to the list ????????
Is there anything wrong with just hitting the "Reply to All" button on the
toolbar? That's the way it's done in IE.302 or IE4.0.
As I remember it, there is a similar power button in Netscape and in other
e-mail client programs.
What mail program are you using Daryl?
BTW, you never want to even think about asking the List manager to make such a
change. This is a feature that should always be under the control of the
individual e-mail program. Once it is hard wired into a list server's
configuration, then we have all lost our freedom of choice - bad move. I've
seen it on another list (the Westinghouse Retirees Forum, and I hate it.)
73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 18:43:47 -0500
From: Lloyd <lloyd2@mindspring.com>
Subject: [psk31] Taking another look at Pactor
>I listen to a freq for several minutes for close in traffic. Then I usually
>send something to see if anyone sends anything back. Thats just good
>operating procedure. With digital asking doesnt work because of so many
>modes. But if I am recieving and hear a station xmit I hit xmit just so he
>can hear something on the freq. Yeah its just a hobby and inconsiderate
>folks spoil for the others. Many years ago people showed some courtousy.
>
In the mid '50s everyone was saying the same thing. Then though it was that
'monkey chatter' (what was it called? That stuff you had to tune in with a
BFO?) called single side band. A little after that it was that terrible
weird stuff called FM.
The more things change, the more they are the same.
73
Lloyd KB3VQ
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:25:17 -0500
From: Martin <rutherford.ulea@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Logger Logging and PSK Program
Hi Koy. No function keys, but alt-t transmits, alt-r receives, and
alt-a
aborts the current transmission. I notice that logger is more mouse
dependent than Peter's PSK31, but I like the integration of its
functions, and the ease of logging contacts. You can also copy text
from the screen, and paste it into the NOTES window. Highlight the
desired text, (it will go back to normal, but is still highlighted) and
hit Ctrl-c (this copies text to the windows clipboard in almost any
windows program). Open the Notes window, click in the large area below
the call sign box, and hit Ctrl-v. This will paste the text. Make sure
the call sign box contains the call of the station that you are working,
and hit enter.
PS. Nice to contact you earlier today on 10m!
Koy Carson wrote:
>
> I downloaded the "Logger" program.And I do like it. I would like it better if
> I could figure out how to make it start sending when I press a key like
> Peters does..Any suggestions?.....Koy
- --
Cul8r
Martin Campbell rutherford.ulea@mcleodusa.net KB0HAE
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 21:45:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker)
Subject: [psk31] Boston and QEX
1) noted reprint of our esteemed leader's RSGB articles in ARRL's
QEX this month (with Feb.199 update). (Several other intersting
articles this month also.)
2) Is there anyone active on PSK31 willing to give presentations to ham
clubs on PSK31? and close enough to Boston Mass (W1)?
(No, I'm not active on PSK31 yet, so I can't do it, but I'm hoping to
be later, as are several other Boston ARC members -- once I get my new
VHF SSB station working, maybe I'll try VHF PSK31; trying HF PSK31 will
unfortunately have to wait until I learn to copy a different chirpy
modulation the old-fashioned way. But let's not discuss THAT here!)
73
- --
Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs
http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:55:53 -0500
From: "George T. Baker" <w5yr@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Logger Logging and PSK Program
Use the Pause/Break key to toggle transmit on and off.
72/73, George AMA 98452 R/C since 1964
Amateur Radio W5YR, in the 53rd year and it just keeps getting better!
AutoPOWER Systems, Fairview, TX (30 mi NE Dallas) Collin County
QRP-L QRP-ARCI FISTS NORCAL ZOMBIE ARS 10-X 33.2 N 96.6 W EM13RE
Martin wrote:
>
> Hi Koy. No function keys, but alt-t transmits, alt-r receives, and
> alt-a
> aborts the current transmission. I notice that logger is more mouse
> dependent than Peter's PSK31, but I like the integration of its
> functions, and the ease of logging contacts. You can also copy text
> from the screen, and paste it into the NOTES window. Highlight the
> desired text, (it will go back to normal, but is still highlighted) and
> hit Ctrl-c (this copies text to the windows clipboard in almost any
> windows program). Open the Notes window, click in the large area below
> the call sign box, and hit Ctrl-v. This will paste the text. Make sure
> the call sign box contains the call of the station that you are working,
> and hit enter.
> PS. Nice to contact you earlier today on 10m!
>
> Koy Carson wrote:
> >
> > I downloaded the "Logger" program.And I do like it. I would like it better
if> > I could figure out how to make it start sending when I press a key like
> > Peters does..Any suggestions?.....Koy
>
------------------------------
End of Psk31 Digest V1 #104
***************************
Read previous mail | Read next mail
| |
