| |
EB2DVY > PSK31 24.06.99 10:29l 529 Lines 19246 Bytes #-9988 (0) @ WW.SYD.NSW
BID : 97-EB2DVY
Read: OE1RRB GUEST
Subj: PSK31 Digest V1 #81
Path: OE1XAB<OE3XSR<OK0PPL<DB0RGB<DB0MAK<DB0PV<DB0AAB<DB0AHO<DB0KFB<F8KOX<
F6KNP<F8KLY<F5KPO<F5KAT<EA3D<EA2C<EA2N<EA1URR<EA1URM<EA2G<EA2URV
Sent: 990621/2222Z @:EA2URV.EABI.ESP.EU #:57111 [URV-ABRA Bilbao] $:97-EB2DVY
From: EB2DVY@EA2URV.EABI.ESP.EU
To : PSK31@WW.SYD.NSW.AUS.OC
de: Psk31 Digest <owner-psk31@aintel.bi.ehu.es>
Para: psk31-digest@aintel.bi.ehu.es <psk31-digest@aintel.bi.ehu.es>
Asunto: Psk31 Digest V1 #81
Fecha: sßbado 19 de junio de 1999 4:22
Psk31 Digest Saturday, June 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 081
In this issue:
[psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
[psk31] MIXW32 screen size
[psk31] Any advice!
Re: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
Re: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
Re: [psk31] Any advice!
[psk31] MixW32 Toggle RCV/XMT
Re: [psk31] MixW32 Toggle RCV/XMT
Re: [psk31] Mix32Demo
[psk31] PSK31 & Alinco DX70TH
Re: [psk31] Mix32Demo
Re: [psk31] Any advice!
Re: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
Re: [psk31] Mix32Demo
See the end of the digest for information about psk31-digest
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:18:17 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
Downloaded the program MixW32.zip from the site www.nais.com/~jaffejim
this afternoon and tried it out.
First impressions:
1) Screen requires resolution of 800 x 600 minimum. Anything lower and it won't
fit.
2) Colors in the various windows do not show up unless you are using 16 bit
color. At 256 color palette, the windows are all white.
3) Lack of a Phase Scope upset me at first, but I got use to that.
4) The Spectrum Analyzer Display is quite different from the waterfall, and I
really prefer the waterfall. However, it seems to be about the same width in Hz
(about 500 Hz, I think)
5) The number of separate windows is daunting. I still haven't figured out what
most of them are for. I finally figured out where to do my typing, and that got
me on the air - didn't worry about the other windows.
6) Cut and Paste works, and it works quite well.
7) The type ahead buffer only screwed me once, and I never did figure out what
happened. I had quite a string of characters in it, and suddenly my signal shut
down. I have no idea what happened. Once I had the presence of mind to toggle
back to transmit mode, the rest of it went straight away.
8) Took me forever to figure out how to transmit. It's Alt-X to toggle between
receive and transmit in case you're still looking for that.
9) The documentation sucks, but hey, that's not a sin. Very few Windows programs
have full blown Windows type help files with Hyperlinks, etc. Peter's program is
an exception on that score.
10) It's a shame that the program is not free, but we've been spoiled by Peter's
largesse. You can count the number of really great free programs on one hand,
PSK31SBW, PaintShopPro, WinZip, and my Smith Chart Program - Hi.
My one and only contact with this program was with XE1JP, bless his soul. He and
I jawed about the program for half an hour this afternoon with 100% copy
throughout.
73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:23:48 -0400
From: Howard Teller <hteller@home.com>
Subject: [psk31] MIXW32 screen size
If you are having problems fitting MIXW32 on your screen, you need to
change from a VGA screen to a SVGA (super vga) screen. If you have
Windows 95, right click on the desktop, go to properties, and settings,
and move the slider to 800x600 and follow the instruction screens. If
you don't have a 800x600 slider selection, you need a different video
driver. In Windows 3.1, you need the SVGA video driver for Windows 3.1,
which you can get from the Microsoft support site. In any case, try to
be sure your monitor supports SVGA, or using a new driver may burn it
out!
73, Howard, KH6TY
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:36:27 -0400
From: Kenneth Norton <w4hkz@att.net>
Subject: [psk31] Any advice!
I am running an Icom 751A
Signals are getting to the sound card(can hear the sig. in the spkrs)
Running Diamond card 16 bits
Audio is going in LINE jack, tip is sig, back sleeve is gng.
Record mode set at 1/2 scale gives random garble print, sig or no sig.
Record set at 1/4 scale, no garble printed.
Playback mode set at 1/2 scale in each situation mentioned above.
HERE'S the real clue: no matter the tuning ,the horizontal tuning bar
remains black. No other color is visible.
The scope has no lines at anytime.
I have varied the volume and made all my attempts in USB.
The sample rate is set at 8000
Center Frequency is 1000
Mode is BPSK
The transmit line is not plugged in . (One problem at a time!)
I am using some rather healthy signals off 14.070.
I am using the same levels(volume and signal) which have been successful
for RTTY copy in past experiences.
So, folks, what is the operator error!!
Your help will be appreciated!
W4HKZ
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 05:15:27 -0500
From: "Gil Baron W0MN" <gbaron@home.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
>
> 10) It's a shame that the program is not free, but we've been spoiled by
Peter's
> largesse. You can count the number of really great free programs on one
hand,
> PSK31SBW, PaintShopPro, WinZip, and my Smith Chart Program - Hi.
>
And Paint Shop Pro AIN'T free folks. At least the current version which is
really the
only one worth having is not free. It IS worth its' price though, easily.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:42:53 GMT
From: mark@microenh.com (Mark Erbaugh)
Subject: Re: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:18:17 -0400, you wrote:
>10) It's a shame that the program is not free, but we've been spoiled by Peter's
>largesse. You can count the number of really great free programs on one hand,
>PSK31SBW, PaintShopPro, WinZip, and my Smith Chart Program - Hi.
WinZIP (from Nico Mak Computing) is not free software. From their
license agreement:
"This is not free software. Subject to the terms below, you are
hereby licensed to use this software for evaluation purposes without
charge for a period of 21 days. If you use this software after the 21
day evaluation period a registration fee of $29 is required."
I think there may be a free unZIP utility.
73,
Mark, N8ME
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:23:21 -0400
From: "Robert Lay" <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Any advice!
>I am running an Icom 751A
>Signals are getting to the sound card(can hear the sig. in the spkrs)
>Running Diamond card 16 bits
>Audio is going in LINE jack, tip is sig, back sleeve is gng.
>Record mode set at 1/2 scale gives random garble print, sig or no sig.
>Record set at 1/4 scale, no garble printed.
>Playback mode set at 1/2 scale in each situation mentioned above.
You did not give us your operating system, or your CPU - not that it should make
a big difference, so long as you have a 486DX66. I know that people have used
lesser processors, but my personal experience with a 486SX25 was very
disappointing.
I don't understand you audio settings because they are not corellating with the
audio mixer applet that is present in my Windows 9x installation. Perhaps the
Diamond sound card has its own mixer program, and that may well be the
underlying problem.
Your audio line into the sound card seems to be OK, but let's make sure.
Normally, the Line-In jack is a stereo jack. Now, you say that you hear the
receiver signals in the speakers, so we know it's getting into the sound card to
some extent. Be advised that the mixer has a balance control for Left-Right
Balance. Also be advised that there are usually "Mute" check boxes on each
volume level slider in the mixer. The "Mute" check box will eliminate the output
of the sound channel muted from appearing at the Line-Out/SPKR OUT jack, but the
"Mute" check box does NOT remove that channel from the recording process - which
is the process feeding the PSK31SBW software.
So, the only recommendation that I can make is to make another throrough check
on "level sliders", and "balance sliders" on all of the relevant channels -
namely, Volume, Wave, and Line-In. " Wave" may be the one that you have
neglected, but I can't imagine your hearing the receiver signals in the speakers
(of the sound card) without the signal getting through to the program.
>HERE'S the real clue: no matter the tuning ,the horizontal tuning bar
>remains black. No other color is visible.
That horizontal tuning bar is known as the waterfall, or as some have declared,
the WFD.
>The scope has no lines at anytime.
>I have varied the volume and made all my attempts in USB.
>The sample rate is set at 8000
>Center Frequency is 1000
>Mode is BPSK
>The transmit line is not plugged in . (One problem at a time!)
Good idea - that's the scientific approach, and there's nothing wrong with those
settings except for the 8000 sample rate. All sound cards seem to recognize
11025 as a viable sample rate, but I think some cards do not respond well to
other sampling rate values. Try 11025.0
Does the mouse cursor blink markedly? If so, that would indicated that the
processor is not able to keep up with the job. Another indicator is that the
mouse will not bring up menu items, such as Setup.
73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:55:52 EDT
From: K2hto@aol.com
Subject: [psk31] MixW32 Toggle RCV/XMT
Hi Gang,
Robert, W9DMK made mention of using ALT + X to toggle back and forth from RCV
and XMT in Mix32W. I was frustrated at first but did notice in the text file
to use the
"PAUSE/BREAK" key which is much easier. I hate reading text/doc files so I
missed it at first. The more I play with MixW32 the more I like it. Would
love to see the best of GNR, PSK31 and MixW32 as an all in one.
73, Marty K2HTO
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:25:48 -0400
From: Vince <wa2rsx@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] MixW32 Toggle RCV/XMT
Atta boy Marty !! Read those text files/documentation files completely and
carefully and perhaps several times.... A specific amount of time, to varying
degrees, have been applied to writing those docs, and end-users should make use
of them fully.
I noted W9DMK's apparent oversight; as well as knowing that the PAUSE/BREAK key
was mentioned FIRST and the ALT-X secondly for toggling Tx/Rx within the doc
file.
73s
~Vince~
K2hto@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Gang,
> Robert, W9DMK made mention of using ALT + X to toggle back and forth from RCV
> and XMT in Mix32W. I was frustrated at first but did notice in the text file
> to use the
> "PAUSE/BREAK" key which is much easier. I hate reading text/doc files so I
> missed it at first. The more I play with MixW32 the more I like it. Would
> love to see the best of GNR, PSK31 and MixW32 as an all in one.
> 73, Marty K2HTO
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:28:47 -0400
From: Vince <wa2rsx@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Mix32Demo
Has anyone tried the Baudot RTTY function in MIX32Demo? I have been able to receive/print Baudot RTTY here, but no one has as yet responded to my RTTY CQs.
If this function does indeed work for me, I suppose that I can then retire the CoCo, NEC Greenscreen monitor, and my homemade AFSK modem interface; finally ~!~
I do hear diddle tones via the FT1000d MONI function here, so I believe that I am transmitting RTTY okay.
I would appreciate hearing from someone that can verify the working status of the Baudot RTTY function within MIX32Demo. Perhaps this function is not yet enabled in the Beta Demo version ? I have not come across anything
relative to FSK31 either...
73s
~Vince~
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:41:51 +0300
From: "Peter Dillon ," <peter@index.com.jo>
Subject: [psk31] PSK31 & Alinco DX70TH
Greetings to the list,
I'm interested in hearing from anyone using an Alinco DX70TH for PSK31.
This transceiver is not specifically designed for digital modes (well,
other than CW) but the manual gives instructions for running RTTY, Fax,
and SSTV through the microphone connector.
Thanks, Pete JY9NE
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:43:44 -0400
From: Vince <wa2rsx@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Mix32Demo
For anyone that has not yet gotten word about MIX32Demo software by Nick, UT2UZ,
I have received the following:
>>Please post the Website on the Reflector if you wish.. the site for
downloading is:
>>www.nais.com/~jaffejim Best 73 and good luck.. Jim ,WA2VOS
"Andrew J. O'Brien" wrote:
> Where do I get the software?
>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:19:30 -0600
From: "Bryan Curl" <bryan@ampex.com>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Any advice!
I had a similar experience on a friends new setup.
We discovered that setting the line in /out sliders on the default windows
mixer did nothing.
It wasn't until I searched his hard drive for "mixer" did I find the mixer
control which was installed with his sound card.
After making adjustments to this mixer all was well again. I made a short
cut for him and advised him to use this mixer when adjusting for PSK31.
Good luck...It's worth the effort to get it running!
===================================
Bryan Curl, n0luf
EPCRACES Information Services Coordinator
epcraces@qsl.net
http://www.qsl.net/epcraces
====================================
- ---- Original Message -----
From: Robert Lay <w9dmk@crosslink.net>
To: Kenneth Norton <w4hkz@att.net>; <psk31@bipt106.bi.ehu.es>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [psk31] Any advice!
> >I am running an Icom 751A
> >Signals are getting to the sound card(can hear the sig. in the spkrs)
> >Running Diamond card 16 bits
> >Audio is going in LINE jack, tip is sig, back sleeve is gng.
> >Record mode set at 1/2 scale gives random garble print, sig or no sig.
> >Record set at 1/4 scale, no garble printed.
> >Playback mode set at 1/2 scale in each situation mentioned above.
>
>
> You did not give us your operating system, or your CPU - not that it
should make
> a big difference, so long as you have a 486DX66. I know that people have
used
> lesser processors, but my personal experience with a 486SX25 was very
> disappointing.
>
> I don't understand you audio settings because they are not corellating
with the
> audio mixer applet that is present in my Windows 9x installation. Perhaps
the
> Diamond sound card has its own mixer program, and that may well be the
> underlying problem.
>
> Your audio line into the sound card seems to be OK, but let's make sure.
> Normally, the Line-In jack is a stereo jack. Now, you say that you hear
the
> receiver signals in the speakers, so we know it's getting into the sound
card to
> some extent. Be advised that the mixer has a balance control for
Left-Right
> Balance. Also be advised that there are usually "Mute" check boxes on each
> volume level slider in the mixer. The "Mute" check box will eliminate the
output
> of the sound channel muted from appearing at the Line-Out/SPKR OUT jack,
but the
> "Mute" check box does NOT remove that channel from the recording process -
which
> is the process feeding the PSK31SBW software.
>
> So, the only recommendation that I can make is to make another throrough
check
> on "level sliders", and "balance sliders" on all of the relevant
channels -
> namely, Volume, Wave, and Line-In. " Wave" may be the one that you have
> neglected, but I can't imagine your hearing the receiver signals in the
speakers
> (of the sound card) without the signal getting through to the program.
>
> >HERE'S the real clue: no matter the tuning ,the horizontal tuning bar
> >remains black. No other color is visible.
>
> That horizontal tuning bar is known as the waterfall, or as some have
declared,
> the WFD.
>
> >The scope has no lines at anytime.
> >I have varied the volume and made all my attempts in USB.
> >The sample rate is set at 8000
> >Center Frequency is 1000
> >Mode is BPSK
> >The transmit line is not plugged in . (One problem at a time!)
>
>
> Good idea - that's the scientific approach, and there's nothing wrong with
those
> settings except for the 8000 sample rate. All sound cards seem to
recognize
> 11025 as a viable sample rate, but I think some cards do not respond well
to
> other sampling rate values. Try 11025.0
>
> Does the mouse cursor blink markedly? If so, that would indicated that
the
> processor is not able to keep up with the job. Another indicator is that
the
> mouse will not bring up menu items, such as Setup.
>
> 73 de Bob Lay, W9DMK, King George, VA
> http://www.qsl.net/w9dmk
> http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/albania/784
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:43:45 +1000
From: Ken Jobling <kjobling@dbworld.net.au>
Subject: Re: [psk31] First Impressions of MixW32 or 10 reasons why you may want to try it.
Robert Lay wrote:
>
>
> 10) It's a shame that the program is not free, but we've been spoiled by Peter's
> largesse. You can count the number of really great free programs on one hand,
> PSK31SBW, PaintShopPro, WinZip, and my Smith Chart Program - Hi.
And two of those are not even free.
- --
Ken Jobling
Email: kjobling@dbworld.net.au
or: k.jobling@bigfoot.com
or: vk3kjc@qsl.net
or: 29024253@pager.mirabilis.com
Web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~k.jobling/
http://www.qsl.net/vk3kjc/index.html
http://earth.dbworld.net.au/~kjobling/
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:45:44 +1000
From: Ken Jobling <kjobling@dbworld.net.au>
Subject: Re: [psk31] Mix32Demo
And it does not even fit on my screen. (640x480 - monitor will not go
higher)
"John P. Slusser" wrote:
>
> Well, I downloaded it, unzipped it, read the manual a little, tried it and my first impression of this "you can't save setup" demo is: BLAH! I just love demos that aren't full featured so you can evaluate them totally.
>
> I LIKE PSK31 and GNR's front end. Opinion stated.
>
> Tell me why I oughta register and use Mix32?
>
> de WD7F
> John in Tucson
>
- --
Ken Jobling
Email: kjobling@dbworld.net.au
or: k.jobling@bigfoot.com
or: vk3kjc@qsl.net
or: 29024253@pager.mirabilis.com
Web: http://www.bigfoot.com/~k.jobling/
http://www.qsl.net/vk3kjc/index.html
http://earth.dbworld.net.au/~kjobling/
"There is no gravity, the earth just sucks" - Unknown
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
to unsuscribe from the list send to majordomo@aintel.bi.ehu.es a message
with a text line as follow: unsubscribe psk31 or unsubscribe psk31-digest
More instructions on PSK31 Webpage: http://aintel.bi.ehu.es/psk31.html
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
------------------------------
End of Psk31 Digest V1 #81
**************************
Read previous mail | Read next mail
| |
