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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 00 14:37:45 MET

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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
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easy for you to format so it may be hard to read until you copy it,
depending on your news reader.

         NOTICE!

Would you like to help keep the internet free?  Then do one or both 
of the following:

1.  Copy this message and post it to 3 newsgroups where it does not 
appear!

2.  Send this message by EMAIL to 5 friends!

The future of USENET and IRC depends on the FCC forcing all ISP's 
starting with Time Warner and AOL to recognize free speech and fair 
marketing practices.  PLEASE HELP!


        SAMPLE MESSAGE

------------cut here----------------------------------------------


To the FCC Commissioners

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The internet is in crisis.  Your decision will either save it or guarantee its
destruction as a form a communication for the average citizen.

The internet was designed as a form of communication, not as a tool of
commercial concerns to sell "content" to their subscribers.  But to
communicate on the internet, first you must get access to the internet.

You are considering a merger between to two most powerful gatekeepers to the
internet.  The question is, will I be able to enter through that gate?  And,
once there, may I voice my concerns on important social, political, and even
commercial concerns, or will I be summarily banned because the gatekeeper
doesn't approve of what I say?

The rules of AOL and Time Warner are extremely clear; if they do not approve
my speech, I cannot speak.  I am not allowed on the internet unless I defer to
their opinion, not voice mine.  And, if I decide to use the internet to send
data, rather than merely purchase "content" from Time Warner and AOL, I am
again summarily speed capped or banned from the internet.  Their Acceptable
Use policy states:

IF TIME WARNER DETERMINES THAT THE SUBSCRIBER HAS FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE
SERVICE'S STANDARDS OF CONDUCT OR LIMITS ON BANDWIDTH UTILIZATION, TIME WARNER
MAY SUSPEND SUBSCRIBER'S ACCOUNT.  TIME WARNER COMMUNICATIONS SHALL HAVE THE
SOLE AND UNREVIEWABLE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHETHER CONTENT VIOLATES THESE
STANDARDS.

Why does Time Warner have the SOLE AND UNREVIEWABLE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHETHER
CONTENT VIOLATES THEIR STANDARDS?  Why can't I post comment based on MY
standards, not theirs? And, when I purchase UNLIMITED SERVICE, why can they
then establish bandwith limitations?  Is this unlimited service?  Is not a
company required to deliver what the customer pays for?

I regularly correspond with users from many foreign countries.  Their ISP's
cannot control their speech.  Why does not an American citizen have at least
the same freedom of speech as do the citizens of foreign countries?  We taught
them the value and power of freedom of speech.  Must they now teach us how to
avoid its death at the hands of commercial mega-corporations concerned only
with their sale of "content?"

If AOL and Time Warner are allowed to take over the responsibility of deciding
who can say what to whom, how will you return the internet to its stated
purpose of a media of public discourse?  How will you put the genie back in
the bottle?  How will you explain to me why my viewpoint is so offensive that
I must be barred from the internet?

I sincerely entreat you to consider me, and all other citizen users of the
internet.  Please, when you make your decision, insure that I can continue to
use the internet, and specifically that high speed access will not be denied
to me based upon the quantity or content of my speech.







uHwDDKuz

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:44:57 GMT
From: "Bill" <bsplaine@sonic.net>
Subject: FS: Ham Radio Books

I have a bunch of ham radio books for sale for, what I believe, are good
prices.  See them at:

http://www.sonic.net/bsplaine/forsale.html

Thanks, Bill

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:14:05 +0930
From: "DICK MOORE" <VONKS@BIGPOND.COM>
Subject: mfj software

looking to purchase a soft ware  program for my 1278b tnc.vonks@bigpond
.com.au

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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:31:47 GMT
From: steve.m1bjr@deletethisbit.ntlworld.com (Steve)
Subject: Packet Experimentors Society of Texas

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:30:45 -0500, "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net>
wrote:

> FlexNet, recognized globally as one of the best sources of setup info for
the most advanced
>Packet networking system.

I thought that until I just began using XNET.... has all the benfits
but is MUCH more flexible with hardware and compatability with Net/ROM
nodes in the system etc....

Steve UK.

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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:22:37 GMT
From: "Alan Murray" <almurray@optonline.net>
Subject: Telnet IP numbers please

This maybe what your looking for. It may not be up to date to a lot of the
ip addresses are in html format with other verbiage.
http://www.qsl.net/n2bqf/resource.htm
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> "madiba" <tablemountain@mweb.co.za> wrote in message
> news:39c301c9.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
> > Hi All
> > Can someone mail me a list of Telnet IP numbers in HTML format ?
> >
> > Thanks very much in advance.
> > 73 Andre ZR1TRD

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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:11:24 -0400
From: "Tom" <tomster@netsync.net>
Subject: Western New York

Northern Chautauqua county.

"Timmins" <timmins@penn.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:lGUD5.22403$Sr.12243@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Where at n WNY??
> de Bill, N3DDY in Warren PA
> "Tom" <tomster@netsync.net> wrote in message
> news:stvmbnmfd5ngee@corp.supernews.com...
> > Any packet activity in Western New York?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > N2MTN
> >
> >
>
>

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