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Date: 10 Aug 2000 10:16:57 +1000
From: news@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: Llamando todos los españoles altavoces 8947
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:28:39 +0200
From: "Patrick Sieber" <rip@bnv-bamberg.de>
Subject: Locator
Hallo,
ich habe ein Problem mein Logbuch Programm hat kürzlichst meine
ganzen Locatorfelder gelöscht. Den Großteil habe ich wieder abgemessen
aber meine DX Verbindungen kann ich leider nicht nachmessen, da ich
keine passende Karte dafür habe. Vielleicht kann mir ja jemand von euch
weiterhelfen.
Wir fehlen die Locatorfelder von diesen Stationen:
EA5DIT
EA7GTF
CT1DIN
CT2HSN
EA1SH
alle auch UKW gearbeitet bei einer schönen sporaticE.
Also würde mich echt freuen wenn mir der ein oder andere da weiterhelfen
könnte.
Patrick, DG1NPS
--
vy 73 es best DX de
Patrick/dg1nps/jo50ka
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:26:53 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net>
Subject: PEST web site moved
The PEST web site, with it's set up examples for Flexnet, and articles of
general interest have been moved to:
http://home.swbell.net/n5pvl/
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
n5pvl@swb.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 03:13:33 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: PEST web site moved
You email address is no longer working (n5pvl@swb.net) ...
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
"Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net> wrote in message
news:0mgk5.115$az2.10563@nnrp1.sbc.net...
> The PEST web site, with it's set up examples for Flexnet, and articles of
> general interest have been moved to:
> http://home.swbell.net/n5pvl/
>
> 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> n5pvl@swb.net
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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 05:14:47 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net>
Subject: PEST web site moved
"Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net> wrote in message
news:x5pk5.5144$4T.299994@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Your email address is no longer working (n5pvl@swb.net) ...
>
That's my first one with SWBELL, that never worked. Thanks for pointing that
out; I'd forgotten. I've revised my signature file with the newer one now,
so it ought to work right...
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
n5pvl@swbell.net
http://home.swbell.net/n5pvl/
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:08:02 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net>
Subject: telnet
Having trouble getting those last few contacts for your DXCC?
Use the Telephone!
It's easy! It's fast! It costs less! It requires no knowledge
or ability whatsoever!
Still can't talk to those rare and distant countries on 10 meters,
even with an expensive new tribander?
Use the Telephone!
Do you have NTS Health 'n Welfare traffic which must be moved to a
recipient several hundred miles away?
Use the Telephone!
Want to build an Amateur Radio Digital Network?
Use the Telephone!
Want to reliably communicate with distant Hams while radiating
a minimum of RF?
Use the Telephone!
For some strange reason, in every aspect of Amateur Radio except Packet,
it is widely recognized that using the Telephone is not an appropriate
response to the challenges we face as Ham Radio operators.
Everywhere else, there is an unspoken understanding that as Hams,
we are expected to be clever in our use of Radio and in the process
of overcoming those challenges, advance the art and better ourselves
as persons.
Why is it, I wonder, that the type of information we transmit
(Digital as opposed to Analog) makes any difference in this matter?
Why is it "OK" to bypass and undermine the use of Radio by Hams who
want to transmit Digital info, but not "OK" to do so for Analog stuff?
Is there a particular reason why advancing the art of Amateur Radio
in respect to moving Digital info is deemed to be of less importance
to us as Hams? Is there any logic behind the widely-held perception that
as long as you are handling Digital info, it doesn't really matter
(As a Ham) whether you use Radio to communicate or not?
In places where the regs specify that non-ham means of communication not be
allowed within the Amateur Radio Digital Net, there has been unchecked
progress and advancement over the last decade.
In those places where the use of Packet/Internet gateways have not been
regulated though, the opposite has happened and Network infrastructure
has been severely compromised while Hams have lost interest and heart
in large numbers. This is what has happened to the USA, Australia, and
other places where "packet hackers" have been given a free hand to
do as they wish.
I have read about FlexNet nodes in Europe which regularly handle
10 Megabytes per hour and more of traffic. That represents a high level
of both physical and technical development and advancement, along with
a high level of interest and enjoyment among the individual Packet ops
there.
The difference is infrastructure. Use the Telephone instead of Radio, and
infrastructure is what you give up. Sure, it's a challenge to build
a digital network; It's expensive, difficult, frustrating, and
sometimes appears to be impossible. The alternative though, is
the mediocrity which follows those who prefer to cop out, cheat,
and cheapen themselves while they undercut others.
I just don't see why our response to the challenges we face as Hams
should be different when wanting to move Digital as opposed to
Analog information.
I do not see why Hams using Radio is treated as being less important
in the US than it is in Europe.
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