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Packet-Radio Digest Tue, 28 Mar 2000 Volume 2000 : Issue 75
Today's Topics:
A.J. in South Africa
Best speed without line-of-sight? (10 msgs)
info required on PK-232mbx with 7.19 software
Packet Radio E-Book Now Available
pk232 as a digi
Tech-Plus and Digital Modes on HF?
Type of radio?
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:14:56 -0700
From: "Gansel" <Gansel@mcn.net>
Subject: A.J. in South Africa
A.J. deleted your e-mail addy by mistake. Did you get the KAM + chip in
the mail yet ? Let me know.
Todd
KC5YED
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:13:05 -0600
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Best speed without line-of-sight?
Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote in message
news:FazD4.22909$mf.1745679@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> >
> > Viability is kind of like beauty - Strictly in the eye of the beholder.
> > Though Packet is no good for what you had in mind, there are other
> > applications for it that it has handled quite well.
>
> Works fine for me here, perhaps your network is just too slow,
> or you lack the appropriate means of passing the internet
> connection over packet radio.
>
Nope, just a good old fashioned dose of common sense. I'm not interested in
having my station set up so that it is more than likely to violate the
PART97 regs, and of course I have no interest whatsoever in paying fines or
having my equipment confiscated.
Neither of the choices one has when setting up an Internet Web-browsing
connection over Packet Radio (Either restricted to the point of
pointlessness or just plain illegal) have any appeal to me. Pretty silly
stuff. I've better uses for both my money and my time.
When I want to browse the Web or do this E-mail/Newsgroup stuff, I use a
landline modem to dial up my ISP. I get to see and do it all, and at high
speed for next to nothing. Legal as church on Sunday.
Swapping HTML between Hams on Packet is a good idea, but setting up access
to commercial Web communications via Amateur Radio doesn't strike me as
being very clever. It's a good way to screw up and lose your ticket, and a
piss-poor excuse for Internet access. (Crippled or illegal, take your
choice. Both suck.)
Have you come up with a solution to these problems, that would make the idea
more practical, and less of a legal liability? I'd be interested in hearing
how you would do that.
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:52:02 GMT
From: K2UL <k2ul@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Best speed without line-of-sight?
Hank Oredson wrote:
> The solution to this straw man you put forth is very simple.
> Probably everyone else understands it since it is so obvious.
>
> So I'll repeat for those who are interested in experimenting
> with ham radio: it is possible to pass internet content across
> ham radio links without violating the terms of one's license,
> even here in the US. You just have to be careful of what you do.
Hank.
Please say what you want to say in plain English and don't be such
a jackass. I don't know what the f* you are talking about.
73 de K2UL
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:42:41 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Best speed without line-of-sight?
"Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
news:8bnmi102kau@enews3.newsguy.com...
>
> Hank Oredson <horedson@att.net> wrote in message
> news:FazD4.22909$mf.1745679@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > >
> > > Viability is kind of like beauty - Strictly in the eye of the beholder.
> > > Though Packet is no good for what you had in mind, there are other
> > > applications for it that it has handled quite well.
> >
> > Works fine for me here, perhaps your network is just too slow,
> > or you lack the appropriate means of passing the internet
> > connection over packet radio.
> >
>
> Nope, just a good old fashioned dose of common sense. I'm not interested in
> having my station set up so that it is more than likely to violate the
> PART97 regs, and of course I have no interest whatsoever in paying fines or
> having my equipment confiscated.
You assume I do? How ignorant!
No reason to toss out the baby along with the bath water.
The solution to this straw man you put forth is very simple.
Probably everyone else understands it since it is so obvious.
So I'll repeat for those who are interested in experimenting
with ham radio: it is possible to pass internet content across
ham radio links without violating the terms of one's license,
even here in the US. You just have to be careful of what you do.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:12:22 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: Best speed without line-of-sight?
"K2UL" <k2ul@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:38DF91A9.80BB5D09@worldnet.att.net...
> Hank Oredson wrote:
>
> > The solution to this straw man you put forth is very simple.
> > Probably everyone else understands it since it is so obvious.
> >
> > So I'll repeat for those who are interested in experimenting
> > with ham radio: it is possible to pass internet content across
> > ham radio links without violating the terms of one's license,
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