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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:55:56 -0600
From: "Bud" <mircuser1234@yahoo.com>
Subject: What the heck is Packet radio good for anyway?
Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> has been blocked.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:39:45 -0600
From: "Jennifer" <nomail@nowhere.net>
Subject: What the heck is Packet radio good for anyway?
I missed the responsibility part too. Nevertheless, basic responsibility is
nor has it ever been the topic of discussion. The reply that was made
regarding 1200 baud packet on (I still suppose) 2-meters was and still is a
little narrow.
Bud <mircuser1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lJVq4.9801$QK6.104210@news4.mia...
> He didn't make a call for basic responsibility. He, and you, are
completely
> confused. I must have missed your appointment by the ARRL as the Amateur
> Radio Police. Take a hike.
>
>
>
> Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
> news:88gtiq1mgr@enews2.newsguy.com...
> >
> > Moron Bud <mircuser1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:CMEq4.12853$po2.138223@news1.mia...
> > >
> > > You idiot.
> >
> > You're the idiot. Billy had a valid point there, and you didn't. The
fact
> > that your response to a call for basic responsibility in how we operate
> was
> > to call the person names tells us all we have to know about your
> character.
> > (And lack thereof)
> >
> > Amateur Radio could do with a lot less people like you.
> >
> > Take a hike.
> >
> > --
> >
> > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> > N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> > http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Billy (N5YSQ) <n5ysq@neto.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ckBq4.1133$EO2.5990@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > > > I have a few negative comments to make on this subject, first of
> all,
> > I
> > > > would think that all this is TRUE.
> > > >
> > > > Next of all, if packet radio is used for all this, at 1200 baud,
> > reckon
> > > > how MANY at the SAME TIME can use, if happened to be located in the
> same
> > > > general area..
> > > >
> > > > I have been a packet radio operator since I got my Ham Radio ticket,
> and
> > I
> > > > have seen the freq go to POT for the very same things that this
> fellow,
> > > (no
> > > > callsign that I saw) is talking about. so just because you CAN DO
> > > certain
> > > > things, does not mean you SHOULD DO these things on a 24 hour
basis..
> > > >
> > > > This is just one person's opinion n5ysq 73's.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:13:30 GMT
From: n9ogl@my-deja.com
Subject: What the heck is Packet radio good for anyway?
In article <88gu600n19@enews2.newsguy.com>,
"Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote:
>
> <n9ogl@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:88g8v7$k7u$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > My point is Packet does not have the varity like the internet and
when a
> > person comes up with a new idea for packet or a new program idea for
> > packet it is seemed to be frowned upon by other operators. So packet
> > will remain third to the Internet, and Wireless Internet systems.
>
> I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Packet Radio is not a
> commercial communications network, and so does not "compete" with
commercial
> communications networks in any way.
>
> Packet is for Amateur Radio operators who enjoy digital communications
> *independent* of commercial communications networks and the Internet.
>
> Of course it's different... It's supposed to be, for a number of
reasons. If
> it offered exactly the same thing as the commercial nets, there would
be no
> reason for it to exist at all.
>
> Try thinking this stuff through, every once in a while.
My point sir was simply that packet will slowly die off if No varity is
allowed. Sure packet is NOT completing with commercial services but
really ask yourself would you run Packet or sit on the internet wasting
energy debating or even trying to piss people off because of something
stupid like packet? When energy should be used to try to make it better
so more hams will uses it. I know a lot of amateur radio operator who's
opinion of packet is the same as mine that it is a worthless mode simply
because there is really three things you can do with it Chat with people
keyboard to keyboard, get on BBS which in itself in my opinion is
nothing but a sick joke. and leave people email that's if they will
check it or have the intelligents to write you back.
> >Varity
> > does not have to be a new idea or program but a BBS with it's own
stuff
> > in it and not some Fowarded stuff from other places have BBS systems
for
> > just for sale stuff and another BBS for Digital communication idea
or
> > one with General Amateur radio stuff but leave all the for sale
stuff in
> > the for sale BBS.
>
I too ran a BBS here in Illinois for a few years and the Sysops ran most
of the users off by fowarding on the users frequency instead of using
the backbone system.
> That's up to the individual BBS SYSOP. My BBS has offered a good
variety of
> info above and beyond the daily bulletins for over a decade now... So
what?
>
> >Give the BBS a varity and it's own indivualism. Stuff
> > on BBS doen't have to be just "For Sale" and jokes On Amateur radio
you
> > can talk about anything not just radio. But again You have Amateurs
who
> > don't want change wiether it packet or anything in the Amateur radio
> > service. So Packet will be like ancient modes of communication it
will
> > die out because those people will not execpt changing the system
>
> Blah blah blah... Yah yah yah.. Too lazy and stupid to do anything
yourself,
> but you have plenty of energy at hand for the purpose of denigrating
the
> efforts of others. Maybe you should just stick your head in the
toilet..
> Flush twice! It's a long way to Washington D.C. !
>
Sir, we all try to do are part; there are the dreamers and idealist like
me then there are those who make the dream a reality. I know how to make
computer programs however my knowlege of wireless communication systems
and the setting up the programming to connect to thoses systems are,
should I say, Dumb. Therefore some of the programs I have created over
the years for packet will not be on packet because of that. You see sir
there are people beyond your little P.E.S.T. group who want to do
something but knowlege fall short of the goals. They want to change the
system but run into people who become irrate or assholes who Don't want
to help unless they get some kind of cash out of it; or people who don't
want the system changed. It is those two groups that will destroy packet
radio
Todd O'Dochartaigh N9OGL
Amateur, Commercial Operator, Experimenter, and Amateur Scientist
BUT STUPID ON WIRELESS COMMUNICATION PROGRAMMING
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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