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configure for each network I was attached to. I had to understand TCP/IP
and NETBEUI to get connected. I had to then figure out how to load the
winsock after the Win32 module. Now I can only ping what I wanted to get
to! Then I had the load the application layer. Any how, It was not as
easy as plug & play & pay! This issue is very analagous to the morse
code requirement to get licensed. To get my license I had to learn morse
code therefore I have a greater respect for it. Not because of the code
itself but because I had to obtain a skill before I could get the
license. Drivers license and hunting licenses work the same way. My post
was not about CB but about digital communications in amateur radio.
Electronics wrote:
>
> So basically you are saying that everyone involved in CB are lowlifes.
> Well, I have some news for you since you have a short sighted view of
> things. Just like amateur radio, CB radio has its good guys and its bad
> guys. Don't tell me that everyone in Amateur Radio is good and all in CB is
> bad. There is good and bad people in every hobby, group, occupation, and in
> general life. Of course, what you are really doing is to paint all people
> in CB with a wide brush. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and numerous others have
> done that and painted people they did not approve of with a wide brush. I
> bet that you haven't paid much attention to some of the trash on the ham
> bands. Go down to 3.853, 3894.5, 3901, 3922, 3950, 14.300, 14.313, 7258,
> and other frequencies and monitor for a while and there will definitely be
> scoffaws and troublemakers on the air. Most of them are amateur operators
> with their FCC approved callsign and they play music, use foul language,
> play jammer tapes, and other activities. Yes, I'll admit that there are
> some losers and boozers involved in CB. But there are also a large majority
> of people who happen to be good family people who obey the rules within
> reason and enjoy the hobby much like many enjoy amateur radio. Many of them
> go to work and support their families, they run clean stations. Also many a
> CBer happen to be rather technically proficient unlike your classifying all
> CBers as morons. Some CBers happen to be knowledgeable about antennas,
> radio, and even unfortunately amplifiers and other material. How many hams
> are proficient enough at their craft. Yes, some are but many couldn't even
> solder a PL 259 onto their coax and build a decent antenna. SO WHY DO MANY
> AMATEURS END UP BUYING ALL KINDS OF COMMERICAL PRODUCED GARBAGE OTHER THAN
> TRANSCEIVERS. Hmm, that could be up for debate. As far as all CB being
> crude, that is far from the truth. Yes, there are some characters on CB who
> have some problems and cause problems. Yes, many CBers buy commercially as
> well. As far as bad language on CB, there is quite a bit, but tune around
> and monitor the ham bands and you will find a good share of it and other
> unnecessary commentary bordering on the crude and tasteless and crossing
> the medium. A good place to listen to good CB is on sideband throughout the
> licensed channels and on the unlicensed frequencies.
>
> Rob Kling <rkling@home.com> wrote in article
> <3688E905.2A476AA2@home.com>...
>.
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:38:26 GMT
From: Rob Kling <rkling@home.com>
Subject: Packet Hackers
I am sorry to use another important facet of radio as I did. CB is a
valuable facet to radio just like all the others. To put it down as I
did was inappropriate.
Rob Kling
* Huggy * wrote:
>
> De Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:17:31 GMT,
> <36865E59.4C6723DD@home.com>,
> Rob Kling <rkling@home.com>
> a écrit dans le message (Re: Packet Hackers)...
>
> ====================
>
> >I agree that Amateur Radio Links do not begin to compete with the
> >internet but why do they need to. I think my cable modem is the greatest
> >thing, always connected at light speed "beem me up, Scotty" but I also
> >love amateur radio. It takes some skill to set up a radio station and
> >start rag chewing or bounce off a satellite. The Internet is easy, all
> >you need is a computer, AOL and a phone line, there is no skill
> >involved. I cannot udnerstand why I would want to attach my radio and do
> >the same things I do on the internet. I do not want to do the same
> >things! The Internet is, in a lot of ways, like CB, easy and brain-dead.
> >Ideally, I think Amateur Radio can be enhanced by the Internet and
> >vice-versa. For one to become just like the other would be the death of
> >Amateur Radio only because the next question would be do we need both?
>
> >Although, I would like to see radios with good 9600 baud performance as
> >a standard feature, so that we could have news groups like this one.
> >What do we need to communicate? How fast is fast enough? How much does
> >it cost compared to the internet( the next best alternative)? Who is
> >going to supply the demand? Unfortunatley, all the creative energies
> >that helped fuel packet, kiss, clover etc are now gone. Where are the
> >experimenters in this hobby and how many are there? Do you think ICOM,
> >YAESU or Kenwood are going to come up with the next great idea? I will
> >guess that they will not. They will supply only what we demand and until
> >we make it a great idea, that they can profit from, will you see it
> >available.
> >
> >Rob Kling
>
> the problem of ham operators is that hams see themselves superior over
> all other people including CBers and scanner listeners. The common
> referring of CB is a good example. most people in this world don't
> want to join group [hams] like that.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:31:46 +0100
From: "arel" <arelave@wxs.nl>
Subject: te koop president lincoln
hallo,
ik heb hier nog inde aanbieding:
pres. lincoln en turner expander 500 tafelmic.
prijs fl.450,-
info: arelave@wxs.nl
>.
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