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Packet-Radio Digest         Thu, 31 Dec 98       Volume 98 : Issue  283

Today's Topics:
                     * * * * *  Packet * * * * *
                  ft-207 radio-tnc diagram (2 msgs)
                       Packet Hackers (3 msgs)
                      te koop president lincoln

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Date: 30 Dec 1998 08:43:45 GMT
From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au>
Subject: * * * * *  Packet * * * * *

In alt.ham-radio.packet B v Sabben <bvss@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> I have a 27mc CB-transceiver with a 1200 BAUD packet modem.
> Is it possible to make use of a standard modem(33k6) and connect this on my
> 27 Mhz CB-transceiver.

Your modem expects to train on the line conditions first -- so you can't
use it for packet in the traditional sense (where lots of stations share
a frequency). If you could have a frequency each direction (it would
need to be full duplex) and can get a quiet enough channel, maybe it would
work. It would have to be pretty quiet though, because 33k6 needs
quite good line conditions.


Hamish
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Date: 30 Dec 98 17:18:37 GMT
From: snoopy302@juno.COM (Ross A Sylvester)
Subject: ft-207 radio-tnc diagram

Can any body help me I am looking for a Radio to TNC diagram for an
FT-270?   If you can help me please email me at   snoopy302@juno.com
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 04:33:37 GMT
From: hightower73@fcmail.com
Subject: ft-207 radio-tnc diagram

On 30 Dec 98 17:18:37 GMT, snoopy302@juno.COM (Ross A Sylvester)
wrote:

>Can any body help me I am looking for a Radio to TNC diagram for an
>FT-270?   If you can help me please email me at   snoopy302@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:33:40 GMT
From: Rob Kling <rkling@home.com>
Subject: Packet Hackers

I was wrong to say CB was easy and brain dead. I should not have used
another valuable facet of radio in such a manner. I am sorry.

* Huggy * wrote:
> 
>  De Sun, 27 Dec 1998 16:17:31 GMT,
> <36865E59.4C6723DD@home.com>,
> Rob Kling <rkling@home.com>
> a écrit dans le message (Re: Packet Hackers)...
> 
> ====================
> 
> >I agree that Amateur Radio Links do not begin to compete with the
> >internet but why do they need to. I think my cable modem is the greatest
> >thing, always connected at light speed "beem me up, Scotty" but I also
> >love amateur radio. It takes some skill to set up a radio station and
> >start rag chewing or bounce off a satellite. The Internet is easy, all
> >you need is a computer, AOL and a phone line, there is no skill
> >involved. I cannot udnerstand why I would want to attach my radio and do
> >the same things I do on the internet. I do not want to do the same
> >things! The Internet is, in a lot of ways, like CB, easy and brain-dead.
> >Ideally, I think Amateur Radio can be enhanced by the Internet and
> >vice-versa. For one to become just like the other would be the death of
> >Amateur Radio only because the next question would be do we need both?
> 
> >Although, I would like to see radios with good 9600 baud performance as
> >a standard feature, so that we could have news groups like this one.
> >What do we need to communicate? How fast is fast enough? How much does
> >it cost compared to the internet( the next best alternative)?  Who is
> >going to supply the demand? Unfortunatley, all the creative energies
> >that helped fuel packet, kiss, clover etc are now gone. Where are the
> >experimenters in this hobby and how many are there? Do you think ICOM,
> >YAESU or Kenwood are going to come up with the next great idea? I will
> >guess that they will not. They will supply only what we demand and until
> >we make it a great idea, that they can profit from, will you see it
> >available.
> >
> >Rob Kling
> 
> the problem of ham operators is that hams see themselves superior over
> all other people including CBers and scanner listeners.    The common
> referring of CB is a good example.   most people in this world don't
> want to join group [hams] like that.
> 
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:15:55 GMT
From: Rob Kling <rkling@home.com>
Subject: Packet Hackers

I agree that what I said may sound a little short sighted when it comes
to CB. Most people who have CB's are decent people, I own and use one on
vacations. I think CB is an excellent way to get started in radio but it
is not family radio. My point was only this, that becuase it easy and
un-policed it has some bad elements, as in any other facet of life. My
point regarding the internet is somewhat like CB was this:  it takes no
discipline to obtain it therefore there is little respect for it! When I
first started on the internet I had to load a protocol manager and


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