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If the control operator checks the content before triggering a 'send',
no prob.
In my opinion, digital ham radio is a cute toy and is of some use in
passing emergency traffic and in a few specific applications like APRS.
However, the only real future to digital radio is in linking to the
internet. In the next few years, commercial concerns will build a nation-
wide wireless network linking portable computers and palmtops to the
greater internet. Hams will be completely locked out of that process
because of the FCC-imposed restrictions on the content of ham xmissions.
What would YOU do with packet radio if there were no content barriers
between the Internet and the packet net?
Bob, KI8AB
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Date: 9 Jul 1999 13:18:01 GMT
From: "Christopher W. Buckley" <cwbuckle@mtu.edu>
Subject: Internet email via ham radio?
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:29:33 GMT , jmorris@nemonet.com spewed forth to alt.ham-
radio.packet:
>>Of course, the occasional "purist", including those who still have not heard
>>about the FCC allowing "ordering pizza via ham radio", may disagree.
>>Jim W5AOX
:jnc>Pizza?!
:jnc>Can U explain? <G>
It is technically legal, although considered bad judgement, to use an
autopatch to do personal business, such as ordering a pizza, or making
a dentist appointment.
It ties up the repeater, however, and the majority of the ham community
would be breathing down your throat in a heartbeat if you did it.
It the town where I am at school, there are two main repeaters, a 2-meter
repeater run by the community club, and a 440 repeater run by the college
club. Inside the college club, we generally use whichever repeater we
can, but for making autopatches, especially if they aren't emergency ones
- we use our own repeater. Its a little bit more of a "tie up the machine
and ragchew" machine, where the 2-meter is more of a quick contact, now
move to simplex, kind of arrangement.
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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 20:29:33 GMT
From: jmorris@nemonet.com
Subject: Internet email via ham radio?
>Of course, the occasional "purist", including those who still have not heard
>about the FCC allowing "ordering pizza via ham radio", may disagree.
>Jim W5AOX
Pizza?!
Can U explain? <G>
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Date: 08 Jul 1999 11:56:08 PDT
From: Jim <jdport@xoommail.com>
Subject: Internet email via ham radio?
I agree. Hams pass third-party traffic all the time. So long as an
unlicensed
person is not the one "activating a transmitter" then there should be no
problem.
Of course, the occasional "purist", including those who still have not heard
about the FCC allowing "ordering pizza via ham radio", may disagree.
Jim W5AOX
"Chris Shadow" <shadow@wxhc.com> wrote:
>
> Why would it be illegal? Is it not third party traffic and the sending
> station of the packets to the rv the control operator?
>
> As long as the conent of the email is ok for ham radio whats the problem.
> Used to do it with my brother all the time.
>
> Chris
>
> Walter Dunckel <wdunckel@best.com> wrote in message
> news:3783E2DB.E30065B2@best.com...
> > It is possible to send E-mail through ham radio, but it would be illegal
> > to receive messages over ham radio from anyone other than a licenced ham
> > radio operator.
> >
> > One of the easiest ways to send E-mail is by using WinAPRS, or the APRS
> > compatible TH-D7a from Kenwood. These use a form of Packet radio. You
> > can enter a short message on the TH-D7's keypad to any e-mail address.
> >
> > You can find out more about the TH-D7 at:
> > http://www.radiohound.com
> >
> > Walter
> >
> > john63401@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a General class ham but have been out of it
> > > many years and have no experience with packet or
> > > other forms of dig radio communications.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to send & receive email to all my
> > > friends and family who are on the Net via ham
> > > radio??
> > >
> > > Example..... say I want to take a trip in my
> > > RV.... can I send them daily email via ham radio?
> > >
> > > If yes..... what "form" of ham radio
> > > communications do I need.... 2M packet, pactor,
> > > what?
>
>
>.
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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 13:02:19 -0700
From: Walter Dunckel <wdunckel@best.com>
Subject: Internet email via ham radio?
Interesting. How is the content being controled by the sending station?
You can't allow just any spam or foul language to pass through.
Otherwise this would be in violation of the FCC rules.
Due to the nature of packet messages it seems that any form of remote
control would be too late. For instance if an autopatch is made and you
realize that the person you called is being obscene or whatever, you can
fairly quickly drop the call before too much has happened. With packet,
by the time you see the message, the complete message is probably sent.
How would you work around this.
I do not see how this would be legal, unless someone is at the computer
and screening all the messages before they are sent over the ham
airwaves.
Walter
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> It's already being done, it's legal and it works. The main users are RV'ers
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