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Subj: Re: [MT63] 20 kHz wide Digital Proposal
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I was passing traffic during hurricanes here in Central FLorida last 
year and no 40KByte  messages were handed to me.
I was in the comm center off and on for 24 hours. I passed 
local 2m voice traffic from a shelter for two days.

>From what I saw the ONLY thing that hams were doing 
was passing information back and forth to the shelters on 2m FM.
None of it was emergency traffic.

All of the  heavy communications were handled on non-amateur 
circuits including conventional and cell phones. The 
cell phones were only out for the genral public, for a while. 
Maybe there was other traffic requested or handled somewhere 
that I didn't know about than I realized.
I just didn't see any going on in the comm center which is where 
it would have originated.

By the way, it sounds like the application you speak of 
depends also on a WORKING internet. (E-mail forwarding method.)
If the internet goes is out then we need a robust mode like 
MT63 which would handle all of it just fine with 1 kHz wide signals.

On 10 Mar 2005 at 9:43, dubose@texas.net wrote:
> Ok...here goes...
> Quoting Brian Carling <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>:
> > 
> > OK fascinating Walt, but do explain to me WHY it is that we need to
> > send so much high speed data on HF?
> 
> If you have no other communications (an assumption), 

Doesn't happen here in Florida any more, pretty much.

>and there is an
> emergency, you will be asked to send critical infrastructure
> communications for local and perhaps state governments and other
> emergency communications for medical assistance and basic governmental
> and protection and safety communications.  In many instances, these
> communications will be in the file format that those organizations use
> in their operational systems. Your choice is to take a print out and
> type out the information into ASCII text or send the file as is.  If
> you type the information, you will introduce 2-3% typing errors.  
 
> You may be called on to send up to 100 messages a day at about 40KB
> size. This was the figure that FEMA put out just prior to Hurricane
> Andrew.

Our local government has HUGE emergency generators enough for 
a small town at their comm center. They also have hurricane-proof 
satellite communications.

Thanks for explaining the hypothetical need to me anyway.



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