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VK2TV > FUEL 07.03.08 07:28l 67 Lines 2580 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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>From: VK2AAB@VK2AAB.#SYD.NSW.AUS.OC
>To : FUEL@WW
>THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW ITS:
>
>1. That we have no time left to develop alternative energy regimes and as a
> result the economies will collapse, banks will all fail, food will be
> extremely short and society will collapse to local agrarian communities.
>
>2. The same as group 1 but more on the lines of a Mad Max scenario with mass
> starvation and a die off of world population over a period od 100 years
> to a world population of 2 billion.
>
>
>I think that is a pretty fair summary of the current situation.
>
>For Bob and the other optimists here is some ammunition for them.
>
>http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/opedne_stephen__080306_peak_oil___true_or_ft
.hm
>
>For those such as myself who are pessimists here is something for you.
>From the Guardian ex oil industry engineer employee;
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>http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jeremy_leggett/2008/03/the_crude_fact.html
>
>From the Falls Church News (US aligned but because the US uses 25% of world
>oil very revelant. Writer is retired CIA analyst.
>
>http://www.fcnp.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2650&Itemid=35
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>For the End oif the worldists;
>
>http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ Pretty tame for this group.
>
>There are lots of them on the internet but I don't generally collect them in
>my bookmarks. Some go on about how to make ammunition for your guns so that
>you will have a supply of ammunition to ward off the marauding gangs of
>hungry people. Make no mistake they believe it because they believe national
>governments will collapse.
>
>Unfortunately there is a grain of truth in the possibility of national
>government collapse or at least a loss of presence of national government as
>there will be a move towards localisation of food production and the
>manufacture of the necessities of life such as furniture and houses etc.
>
>I hope you don't feel too dismal about all this but it is face up to it time
>quite soon. I believe that it is possible the new labour government will have
>to start making adjustments before the end of their current term of office.
>So far they choose to ignore the problem and the bald one goes out of his way
>to ignore questions on the subject.
I only have one concern, Barry. Will I still have packet radio and the
internet. Oops, that's two:-) :-)
Cheers ... Ray vk2tv
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